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There was more to it than that. I don't really understand details so take the following with as large a grain of salt as you want: but from what I've been told I gather the SB idea for EQN was less MMO and more single-box-multiplayer a la Minecraft: in that you could buy the box and build your...

Yeah. I did get a PM on that post that convinced me I was far, far too optimistic and that EQN would have been in a bad state even if SB had purchased SOE. Back to figuring out the VGEmu forums I guess.

Dude. You missed the forest for the trees. SB was trying to buy SOE + 38 Studios Assets that means that EQN had basically no art assets or much of anything else internally when this proposed purchase was going on; otherwise SB would not have been interested in 38 Studios and tossing the voxel...

Now that could have turned things around for EQN.

They've come a long way: currently in pre-alpha. Planets³ video game (Planets Cube) : adventure and construction game, quests, scenario, voxel based, boss, loot, vehicles

Lol. The issue was that Blizzard fucked up and didn't really understand how combat worked at release. Their fix screwed over people who did understand the game. I expect companies to live up to their mistakes and not screw players over for the sake of the shibboleth of "balance." Balance is...

I was referencing this nerf - I think WF was an additional problem. Patch 1.8.0 - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft As I said, I believe Vanguard ended up doing a very similar nerf for possibly similar reasons (lower level color slow attack/high dps weapons were doing more damage...

IIRC, Arcanite Reaper was the main item responsible for the huge nerf: in early Vanilla it was better than pretty anything but Thunderfury or one or two Purples in MC: but there were a lot of slow blue weapons. But it's been a while: I'm sure Vanilla Warriors on this forum could explain the...

I didn't mind WoW's color coding for rarity. The problem was when they nerfed the dps on all weapons because it turned out slow blue weapons with high-dps were better than much faster purple weapons with lower dps because of instant attacks (that is Blizz didn't understand the game they made...

Not really. The real action is in the emu communities: EQ and now VG.

I hate Quest-to-level and in an ideal world Quests wouldn't give XP, but the reality that I've come to accept recently is that Quests are the current best solution to the "Content for 30 minute-1 hour playtime Guy" problem. For the guy or girl who can only play an hour a day quest grinding...

The wide open spaces were fine - the bigger problem worldwise was every area was a separate little world that had nothing to do with any other area. You do the CIS area having never seen CIS lore before and after CIS you never see it again. No continuity.

To whom are you replying? Dumar? Ut? Brad? Draegan? The Voices in Your Head? Asking for a friend.

UT is basically describing Multiverse 2.0 - which was a shitty idea then and hasn't improved with age. For those who have forgotten: Multiverse MMO Development Platform - Build your world! - News

Remember they get all (or most of) the art, quest text, and similar for "free."

I implied same thing earlier but Luxer's post puts it into context: the game was originally designed for slow leveling so taking a week or two to get a Red Weapon from Original Pantheon or CIS was worth the effort. Same thing is true for Crafting and Dip XP. It was all supposed to take a long...

No. The lesson that no MMO house has ever learned is that guys want to be punched in the face, but only some of the time, and only if they'll have an opportunity to punch back.

I'll get right on that @Ut Sad to see that you're making the same mistakes that everyone else has made.

You have lost your mind. Action combat is all wrong for MMORPGs it is the necessary, inevitable evolution of dumbed down DPS only hotbar button mashing. Combat should be strategic: emphasis on Control over DPS. Original trinity, as we all know, was: Tank, Heal, Control not Tank, Heal, DPS.

Lol And since we're theorycrafting again: If you're trying to push the boundaries then an MMO needs to solve the following problems (in no particular order): - Content. Content for the guy who can only play an hour a day, the guy who can play 3-4 hours a day but only on weekends and...

I don't trust you to make a good game Ut only because while you might be a wiz on what's wrong with MMO development houses I can't remember the last time you discussed the goodness and badness of actual MMO mechanics.

Thumbs up for getting rid of levels 51+: worst thing SOE ever did for the game. Thumbs down for this suggestion: I'd actually recommend the opposite nerf the items that were added later to put them in line with original itemization. Return to the original slower leveling - which made those...

Won't happen. As was obvious on the original Pantheon thread: Brad refuses to recognize that he's making the same mistake he made at Sigil: scope creep, art before class/combat are well defined, disposable lore.

The pissed off 100 people are idiots: a good manager/director makes a company/game/film a bad one breaks the company/game/film. SOE/Daybreak is in the shitty position it is today because of Smed. The 100 people get to take credit for their participation in helping make the great...

What's wrong with mad? Are you a sanist?

Lol. You mean all the ideas that didn't originate in whatever games you're talking about? If we're going to go to original sources then the Estates of Tolkien and Gary Gygax should be getting money from every Fantasy C/RPG and Gygax arguably every C/RPG since he came up with the whole RPG...

Sad.

Yep. @zzeris Brad is the guy in the room talking about all these great ideas (some of which are his) but who wants somebody else to do the heavy lifting - now that's normally fine, because let's face it part of being a good manager is having someone else doing the heavy lifting while making...

In other words, they are every other MMO company ever (except Blizz in its heyday).

FFXIV reboot has done okay, if not great. I gave up on Smed after the VG fiasco: if you're going to buy it then you also need to shut it down (excuse me; funset the original version), spend a year fixing it and then relaunch with a fanfare.

You are not. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in VG despite (and in a few cases - such as with the bugivator - because of) the bugs, lag or chunking. Offensive/Defensive Target still the best MMO combat targeting design.

The scope being large was caused by the management problems relatedly the lag issues could have been addressed if the scope hadn't been so large and if Brad had done the smart thing and focused on the engine instead of spending 30 million on Art when the engine was still fubar.

That's a big reason VG was so buggy at release: far too large a world, too many systems.

Not into all-PvP, all-the-time. Hope it does get completed for you and those who do though ;-)

Brad has got a more playable MMO-in-development right now than Smed. Which, frankly, I would never have believed 6, 12 or 24 months ago, given that EQNext has been in development (in various forms) since 2008. I mean seriously - WTF?

People get on Brad for his puffery and braggadocio but Brad has nothing on Smed; which is why I've advocated for shitcanning Smed for years but was willing to engage with Brad in the early days of Pantheon, and would again if Brad would just one time admit he's not a good project manager. -_-

You clearly didn't Myspace enough: however for the sake of eyeballs, and to avoid an infraction, I won't post an example SS. Edit: Kids these days with their Facebook and nice-looking websites - in my day we had glitter fonts exploding on pink and black backgrounds.

I think so, but emphasis on "some VC" - you have to assume the pledge shop will be back: just without the lifetime/unlimited sub premium.