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Ah, okay I'm going to accept your version of events and assume there are indeed at least two "MMOish" projects at Blizzard: Titan 2.0 and WoM. Thanks for the clarification.

Speaking of rumours. EQN/Landmark beta next month. EQN beta ???? (I'm still going to guess a very closed beta by January given the current SOE time frame).

Nah. It wasn't WoM. But as you know once the Blizz exec saw EQN at E3 they immediately killed the Titan project. So the old project is gone and the new project is World of Minecraft. At least that's my guess. I still want to know how the hell that exec saw EQN at E3 when the rest of us got...

Who thinks WoW 2 (aka Titan) will be EQ Next but with some additional on-the rail changes? Or maybe you can go 4 levels down, instead of 3.

We haven't shut down 23 embassies and yelled about how dangerous AQ was. Indeed, Obama said AQ was on the run back in 2012. Many, many, many times. Dave, can we go to playback -> 30 seconds in.

Please explain why your Combat AI is not going to be ping-pong.

Too bad. Jerrithorn was working there, IIRC. I note that StoryBricks just tweeted to the laid off devs to apply for SB EQN jobs. Edit: As did Blizzard for their projects. Edit: Looks like whole SD studio has been shuttered. Defiance/EoN going to be shutdown or moved?

Couldn't agree more. I can only assume most modern MMO game designers are bad at math ;-) (look at the Blizzard Arcanite Reaper debacle).

I think you're looking for this:

Side note It will be interesting to see how SOE deals with hacking. Seems like a ripe environment for MQ/Ghost?? (wtf it was called) and all the other hacking bullshit that fucked up EQ.

I don't talk day to day with Al-Qaeda leaders (sorry NSA asshole who is following this thread) but I'm going to guess from the fact that we've been drone-bombing them for years and AQ seems as strong as ever that it's not as demoralizing as you think. When you're 18, living in Yemen, and...

I don't agree with Erronius on much, but he's right here. This is one of the two reasons I quit WoW (the other being the nerfs to all the interesting items/weapon/world).

A money quote. Edit: Ballmer was just fine as COO, and Smed would probably be a pretty good COO as well. Peter Principle & etc.

My oh my. I have to take Falmer off ignore. Rosie Rappoport does indeed look like a fat ogre on thewww.everquestnext.comwebsite - click on the "Join the Roundtable" button or wait for it to show up as it rotates through the various top level pictures. That is some unfortunate photography -...

I will say EQN will have one aspect of EQ in it. I'm guessing slow will be the uber spell and Slowers will be required.

And I am reminded why I have Ambi on ignore ;-) Thanks big C!. I don't think anyone on this board disagrees that getting a small group of skilled players to accomplish a difficult test is harder than former EQ zerg raiding. On the other hand, MMOs also have a social element, and I'd rather an...

Rift was full of tired and/or gimmicky mechanics. It was obvious in beta, so I saw no need to play the game. I'm not a huge Hartsman fan. I gather he did good stuff on EQ2, but Rift did not/does not impress.

LOL. I wouldn't go that far, but yes I think Smed has made some pretty bad decisions on his watch but he keeps getting lucky, so I don't see him going anytime soon.

Vibe was no paying for races/classes. Bag space maybe, but they want people to start playing the game, so there will be no roadblocks like paying for Ratonga or Trolls - but fat troll cosmetic skin? Why not.

I suspect they're (SB & SOE) are trying to put in old-style AD&D combat where the DM ran the Dragon/Orcs intelligently. Healing was pretty limited back in the day and it was heavily positional. We'll see how well that works.

Gold subs for EQN?Never!Probably.

There are a few 'sub-class' types - they said you will need rogue before you can get assassin. Otherwise, no difference between starting classes and other classes. If you start as a warrior, you can later on get the rogue class through the game or one of the other 38 classes. So you could...

Yeah there could be no 'Wizard' class - just a bunch of different wizard archetypes like the Tempest. So totally possible no 'cleric' or 'wizard' in starting group because they don't actually exist as separate classes in the game. @BigFlex interesting and they never gave a specific example of...

I always preferred the Kojani starting area. I'm debating whether to start a new toon - I'm just trying to get a feel for when the EQN beta is going to start. Rumours are that FnF is soon. If it looks like early 2014. I'd be up for something in VG. And yes I wish they hadn't nerfed the...

@kaid - absolutely. Fuck me for forgetting Player Studio. @Ayeshala - Rezz said it better. "Rascal-riding mmo players" @Rezz I honestly think combat will initially be a blast. Who doesn't want to kill a mob by blasting a hole in the ground as he's running to you and forcing him to die by...

I'm pretty sure Torrid and I are on opposite sides of the aisle here, yet I completely agree with him - beyond just the unconstitutionality of using the AUMF to bomb 16-year old kids in Yemen. And yes, I'm well aware Bush started the campaign and is just as responsible, but the fact that Bush...

With respect to EQN. If they're doing the skilled combat they're going to have to allow zergs. Bellringer is absolutely spot on. The PS2 crowd was younger, but the EQ crowd: I'll just say I didn't see a line-up of carts for any of the PS2 panels. I so wish I'd taken that picture of the...

I think 99% unlikely that you can buy classes - a lot of other things - but not classes: They will sell: -Housing (including Guild) templates. -Cosmetics (different weapon & mount graphics) They might sell: -Mounts -"XP" pots (remember you do get XP from doing RC/Quests - it's just...

Earthquakes aren't happening every 5 minutes. They gave an example of just one happening during a 24 hour example. They also said all regeneration (Earthquakes and Voxel mesh healing) is population dependent (more people faster healing) and they would tune it during beta. Excellent post that I...

Just going off of DCUO's combat. But you're right, no statement. We'll see, I am certainly very interested in beta-ing this game.

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This is where I disagree with you: EQN actually has some interesting mechanics, slow travel, dungeons and raids (as well as rare loot). It doesn't have campable spawns or true dark above ground (thought it does below ground). There's some really good new ideas in EQN - or, if you prefer, not...

I actually think SB can pull off a smart combat AI but that raises more questions than it answers: 1. Can the hardcore playerbase actually handle responding to this smart AI? Probably 2. Can the casual playerbase handle this? Look at how many people die on Beg/Int bots in LOL. I'm guessing...

That's why the first six months will be fun. There will be advantage to single classing. You'll get your guy to tier 5 before the people trying to level multiple classes. But at some point you need to start branching.

Nope. Asked this specifically at SOELive. Response: Game Design is for people to multiclass. If you give advantage to single classers you blow up the whole design.

That's the hope right? SOE knows that EQ/EQ2 are old - there's only so much longer they can go on before they have to ship EQ3. But all that said, I am very sure I and anybody who gives it a shot - including etchazz and qwerty if they give it a shot - will have an enjoyable 3 to 6 months in...

Nah. It'll be popular for a while. But unfortunately, I'm one of the crew that will end up abandoning it in six months and hope there's a new TLP server or large group of rerolled that want to play on EQMac. Fundamentally, I agree with etchazz and Convo I can't see the same character...

I'll buy that skin if EQN is decent but I'd rather SOE let us kickstart EQ3.

FTFY That is the problem. Hopefully they determine that making EQ3 with EQN assets is cheap enough that they can make pretty good money from that 250.

EQN chick better.