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Progression servers are popular enough in EQ1 that you need a subscription to access them, and plenty of players do. For me personally, they are the only reason to sub to EQ, and sometimes I do just to get a nostalgia trip. I can see EQNext offering a version of F2P progression servers for...

Hah. I have a troll SK and a boxed froglok Shaman on some server. Couldn't make it to level 10. The troll in me always wanted to SMASH that idiot froglok

Also a race in EQ1. Cool concept, gay execution. All the new toons start in their home city.

I know this is very late to the party (workin fo da man), but fuck you. I am one who would love to see EQ1 again but am also excited to see this game (although I could do without the ubah pauldrons). Your pathetic bigotry fails. Go back to WoW boy. Still 30 pages behind. So if I missed any...

The original character models in Vanguard were very good. Unibody isn't ideal but even with it VG's character art was some of the my favorite in any mmo. It was SoE that fucked that up by coming in and replacing it with more "heroic" character art that was very poorly done. SoE up until...

Primarily a PvP mmo with 2 hard coded factions fighting over resources (black gold) in the center of the map. Could be fun but my guess is that it will fail in the west pretty hard. 2 faction pvp mmos just never work here. Aion did pretty well in Korea though, so this game may be a success...

The most critical issue involving the game: feign death Is it in game? If so, does it work like EQ1's awesome version or is it useless crap like in EQ2. edit: this ties into mkopec's question below

The main issue is it's just not realistic to create a mega server for a fantasy land based IP without a ton of instancing (phasing or overflow) of some sort. You can't fit that many players into a zone even with todays hardware. So they have to be spread out over a huge world full of hundreds of...

I thought TESO was pretty highly instanced? EQNext supposedly wont have much instancing. A mega server without a lot of instancing or phasing requires a huge world with hundreds of zones and slow travel, like EvE. Then someway to force players to spread out and stay that way. EvE can get away...

As much as I would love to see a first person only EQNext, realistically 3rd person is expected by most mmo players. Even TESO only begrudgingly added first person after the uproar of the diehard Elder Scrolls fans. They designed their game for 3rd person from the start. My guess is EQN will...

True, but most players are sensitive to that path also. Just look at all the epic threads regarding P2W for every new mmo or every mmo that switched from the sub model. Being able to buy gold doesn't make a game automatically P2W. You have to be able to buy an advantage at the endgame with...

The slippery slope argument would be valid if more games actually sold uber loot in their cash shops. The reality is that most of the major F2P mmos do not sell uber loot in their shops and wont because it turns gamers away. You can't sell anything if nobody plays the game. There are P2W...

One of Rift's most popular servers is Seastone, the PvP server. But Rift's open world PvP sucks. Occasionally a higher level ganks lowbies but for the most part you don't see the other side. If you want to PvP it's faster to just queue up for an instance. Which means less people PvPing in the...

I liked EQ2's housing, it was instanced. Although, I assumed they would go for Vanguard's open world type, with plot buying, etc. /shrug Never really cared about housing anyways. But I was curious how they would implement it into their "sandbox" claim. Instancing seems a bit counter intuitive.

Imo, the two best classes ever created in any mmo were EQ1's Shadow Knight and Monk. If they aren't in EQNext I will be seriously disappointed. Other than that the rest of the info sounds fine. Pretty basic though.

d Yep. I love this thread and it's because SoE has hidden their cards for so long. It has let our imaginations run wild with ideas and speculations that are actually interesting to consider. A lot of very good ideas about what should or shouldn't be in mmos have been put forth here. I have...

Too much inside baseball UT. Sorry, but I tend to glaze over your long posts. You may be right about the details, and given your history and the history of mmos, probably are. But all I care about is if I actually enjoy the game. And only I can decide that. Almost every dev you hate with a...

Too much brown...... My only major complaint with TESO at this point is that I'm sick of fantasy based mmo's (WildStar is NOT an alternative). The IP forces them to keep the standard tropes (as does EQNext), but it really is tiresome seeing elves, goblins and brown everywhere.

That, and we are all ultra-sensitized to hype because of all the perceived* failures that have happened since our lost days of innocence in the fabulous fabled land of Antonica. * I say "perceived" because even though most gamers (and especially UT) consider 99 percent of mmos to be...

Don't dis my Raiders man, I'll send the ghost of Al after you. I think I said the same thing in about 5 less paragraphs.

Pretty much. Although UT has more info about the companies and games he "predicts" will fail than most other people do. And more info is always good. Predict a success then I'll be impressed.

Well, mmo's are atm machines for gaming companies. Even the crappy ones make bank as long as they keep the dev / support teams at a reasonable level. SWTOR lost money at first not because of of sub numbers, which were pretty good compared to most mmos, but because they had an extremely bloated...

PS2 is hugely successful for Sony, and their most recent mmo. It has the same engine that EQNext is using and their cash shop is the model EQNext will probably use. Totally different games otherwise but the basic foundation is good.

UT, do you consider PS2 and DCuO to be failures? Last I heard they were doing fairly well, especially PS2. Which indicates they may have righted the ship. EQ is their flagship IP though, it will be interesting to see how much they have actually learned from their past failures and successes...

Nothing to report really. Some crappy videos were leaked and have since been taken down. The official information is standard hype.

I thought SoE picked up Vanguard from Sigil for next to nothing (in Dev dollars)? Just a cheap way to enhance their Station Access package. And since they never really supported the game in anything but a minimal way, that seemed to be true. It sunk Sigil for sure but SoE didn't even blink...

It's called snowball arena. If I recall you join it in Lions Arch. It's fairly simple, you just drop in with a bunch of other players and try to take over objectives. You can decide what role you play I think, don't remember if your class matters. It's fun and not too complicated. Try it, it...

Come on. Stop with the selective quotes, I also said I enjoyed most of the updates. Again, since you haven't played any of the the updates you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. None of the udates can be fully consumed in 3 hours. I never finished any of them and some I spent...

Yeah, my guild doesn't log in anymore either. But that was because most of them bought the game for the WvW, hoping that it would rekindle the DAoC memories. Not to be unfortunately. The couple that still play I encouraged to join other guilds so they could get the new guild achievements and...

Vanguard and EQ1 have pretty horrible cash shops (don't know about EQ2). But they were pasted onto sub games and they are still evolving. Better than they use to be but still just a way to force people to sub. DCUO and PS2 have much better cash shops, especially PS2 since it was built to be F2P...

15 minutes? Like I said, you obviously have never played any of it. If you don't like the content that's one thing, but to have never played it and then call it nonexistent is really sad. Don't even understand what you are trying to accomplish here unless it's just to troll us. Everybody who...

You are only listing the permanent zones and dungeons. You conveniently don't list all the temporary content that comes too. And the jumping puzzles etc. (I can guarantee you didn't do the Halloween jumping puzzle in 30 min). Much of the content is holiday / special events that also had dungeons...

If you actually played the game then you would understand what is going on. I'm not going to list it, frankly it's just too much to look up. Really, it's a ton. Every 3 or 4 weeks their has been new content in the form of temporary or permanent updates. Almost all of them included new dungeons...

Come on. Draegan understood what I meant and so did you. If you want to call me out for bad wording then fine, my bad.

Wrong again. You really need to pay attention the game you are trashing. They produce and release more content than any other mmo. I have given up trying to keep up with it there is so much. It's already been more than an expansions' worth if you played it all. And their bug fixes have been very...

/shrug DAoC is still available to play. It still has subs and hasn't resorted to F2P. Yes, it is also very long in the tooth, but nobody has yet made a game better for it's kind of PvP. And as good as EvE is, I still prefer DAoC's combat and action. Recent mmos (GW2), and upcoming mmos...

DAoC is still up and running. It is one of the most respected PvP mmorpg's ever made.

That is the main reason why open world mmo PvP almost always fails. Levels and gear trump skill in most mmo pvp and it encourages the worst kind of human behavior. That isn't an issue in instanced battlegrounds, since the game forces players of similar gear and levels together. But in open world...

I'm curious UT, in what way do you win if you give GW2's cash shop money? The only thing I ever spent cash on was an extra character slot at release. Ever since then I have converted my extra gold into gems and bought extra bank space. If there is an item in the cash shop I should be getting so...

Bah, I was hooked like a f'ing idiot fish and watched that.