12 year olds stab friend to prove Slender Man is real

kegkilla from Philadelphia_sl said:

lol you bleedjng heart faggots kill me. the consequence of committing a felony is that your life sucks from that point on. you fucked up, you suffer the consequences. deal with it.

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spronk_sl said:

what if you are in texas and you shoot a militia guy approaching your comic book store with an assault rifle because he looks crazy but it turns out he is just expressing his constitutionally protected 2nd amendment rights. you argue the castle/stand your ground doctrine (you felt threatened) but a jury of women convicts you of manslaughter. The judge is pretty old school and only sentences you to 1 year, time served.

now you are out but you are a felon. oh, you are also white in this scenario and you shot a mexican looking guy. In texas you wouldn't be allowed to carry a gun anymore and can't vote. is it fair?

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15th Amendment_sl said:

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation

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19th Amendment_sl said:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation

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24th Amendment_sl said:

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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26th Amendment_sl said:

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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grumblethorn_sl said:

Pretty sad when the walking lobotomy has a better grasp on the topic then you kegkilla from Philly.

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kegkilla from Philadelphia_sl said:

and which one of those guarantees the right to vote to everyone?

none of them shithead. all they are saying is right yo vote cannot be denied due to race, religion, gender, age, failure to pay pole taxes.

does your dumb ass see anything about criminal history in there?

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The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote

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Scholars and courts often note that the Constitution nowhere says, "All individuals have the right to vote." It simply rules out specific limitations on "the right to vote." A right not guaranteed in affirmative terms isn't really a "right" in a fundamental sense, this reading suggests.But if the Constitution has to say "here is a specific right and we now guarantee that right to every person," there are almost no rights in the Constitution. Linguistically, our Constitution is more in the rights-preserving than in the right-proclaiming business. The First Amendment doesn't say "every person has the right to free speech and free exercise of religion." In the Second, the right to "keep and bear arms" isn't defined, but rather shall not be "abridged." In the Fourth, "[t]he right of the people to be secure ... against unreasonable searches and seizures" isn't defined, but instead "shall not be violated." In the Seventh, "the right of (civil) trial by jury" -- whatever that is -- "shall be preserved." And so on.
In those terms, it ought to mean something that the right to vote is singled out more often than any other. Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment imposes a penalty upon states that deny or abridge "the right to vote at any [federal or state] election ... to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, ... except for participation in rebellion, or other crime." The Fifteenth states that "[t]he right of citizens of the United States to vote" can't be abridged by race; the Nineteenth says that the same right can't be abridged by sex; the Twenty-Fourth says that "the right of citizens of the United States to vote" in federal elections can't be blocked by a poll tax; and the Twenty-Sixth protects "[t]he right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote."

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Famm_sl said:

This is a bunch of bullshit. Any ex-con can succeed, especially with some management of his expectations. You are limited in what you can do but why the fuck shouldn't you be? If its your business you'll balk at hiring someone with a long record of theft too, and the job market is competitive.

The prisons have school, college, trade shops, drug treatment, mental health professionals....if anything there's more rehabilitation in prison for a poor person than there is on the street. People who don't succeed often aren't even trying, but they often do have very poor skill sets in the first place due to a life of poverty, lack of parenting and above all drug abuse. You talk about recidivism like its some sad inevitable accident but the fact is that drugs, either addiction or the thug dealer lifestyle, are what is drawing most recidivists back to prison, NOT lack of programs and opportunities.

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