2014 Oscars

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The only people who seriously think that either haven't seen Dallas Buyers Club, or don't realize that playing the same character over and over won't win you an Oscar anymore. Don't get me wrong I like Leo, but all he does anymore is yell.

I don't think anyone should have been really surprised about the winners for any of the major or technical awards
 
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It was interesting to hear McConaughey talking sincerely about God and religion in his acceptance speech after watching Rust's rants about how stupid religious people are.
 
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Not sure how he always plays the same character, He was different in Django
 
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Juvarisx_sl said:
The only people who seriously think that either haven't seen Dallas Buyers Club, or don't realize that playing the same character over and over won't win you an Oscar anymore

I don't think anyone should have been really surprised about the winners for any of the major or technical awards
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i really like leo, and i think he deserved to win an oscar at least twice in his career (for gilbert grape and for blood diamond), but matthew's performance in dallas buyer's club was clearly the best acting job this year and he deserved it. it's rare that the academy gets it right, so i was pleasantly surprised this year that he won. matthew has really spread his wings as of late as an actor. i always thought he was on keeanu reeves' level of acting until that last few years when he had some outstanding performances in movies like "mud," "lincoln lawyer", and "dallas buyer's club."

as for the best picture, i haven't seen "12 years a slave" so i really can't comment on if it deserved best picture or not. i will say as far as best picture worthy movies, there were slim pickings this year. i enjoyed "wolf of wall street" but i don't think it was best picture worthy. i thought "american hustle" had some great individual acting performances, but again, wasn't an overall great movie. "gravity" definitely deserved all of the technical awards that it won, but again, the movie itself wasn't all that great. for me personally, i think "dallas buyer's club" was probably the best movie i saw last year and i was pulling for it, but it got 2 awards for both lead and supporting actors, so i'm happy. i didn't get to see "her" yet, but i heard that was pretty good as well.
 
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BrutulTM_sl said:
It was interesting to hear McConaughey talking sincerely about God and religion in his acceptance speech after watching Rust's rants about how stupid religious people are.
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I thought it was strange because I never really hear white people do that (outside of Tebow). But I guess being raised in Louisiana might have something to do with that.

He's got a really good shot at winning a best actor Emmy for True Detective this year. It's a damn good year for him. Top of the game in both movies and TV.
 
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I've been very hard on 12 Years so thought it'd probably be worth trying to at least state my criticism of the movie. My opinion comes from the film only, but my wife and friend had also read the book and my wife seems to mostly agree with my complaints.

Scale is my biggest gripe about it. It seemed impossible to determine if the movie took place over 12 years (other than justknowingbecause of the title) or 2 years. We saw one season change where the group of slaves was leased out to the other plantation to work the alternate crops. Other than that there was almost zero progression of time. I had no concept of how long he was with Ford, how long he was with Epps, and how his imprisonment changed him over the course. I get that slavery is and was bad and don't need long shots of Solomon getting whipped, Solomon hanging from a tree, or Solomon whipping Lupita to grind this idea over and over. Slavery abuse is a central theme of any of these pieces and after watching Roots, Color Purple, Blazing Saddles, Django Unchained, etc... 12 Years did nothing to strengthen the impact of how horrible a situation or time that period of history was. Since torture porn doesn't do it for me I have to rely on the presentation of how those events or acts changed a character (or how their resolve did not allow it) and how long he or she had to endure it. It felt like...
...a prologue of him being a free man, four acts of random slavery, and a fifth act where Brad Pitt magically appears and saves him. Then a brief family reunion epilogue.

Maybe Ridley did an incredible job adapting the book and McQueen did a great job developing that from paper to film, but just because it was a true story doesn't mean it was a good movie or that I have to modify my expectations.

edit: Oops, guess that was a spoiler. Honestly didn't even cross my mind.
 
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i really like leo, and i think he deserved to win an oscar at least twice in his career (for gilbert grape and for blood diamond), but matthew's performance in dallas buyer's club was clearly the best acting job this year and he deserved it. it's rare that the academy gets it right, so i was pleasantly surprised this year that he won. matthew has really spread his wings as of late as an actor. i always thought he was on keeanu reeves' level of acting until that last few years when he had some outstanding performances in movies like "mud," "lincoln lawyer", and "dallas buyer's club."

as for the best picture, i haven't seen "12 years a slave" so i really can't comment on if it deserved best picture or not. i will say as far as best picture worthy movies, there were slim pickings this year. i enjoyed "wolf of wall street" but i don't think it was best picture worthy. i thought "american hustle" had some great individual acting performances, but again, wasn't an overall great movie. "gravity" definitely deserved all of the technical awards that it won, but again, the movie itself wasn't all that great. for me personally, i think "dallas buyer's club" was probably the best movie i saw last year and i was pulling for it, but it got 2 awards for both lead and supporting actors, so i'm happy. i didn't get to see "her" yet, but i heard that was pretty good as well.
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I've seen all of them except for Nebraska, Her and Philomena. Dallas Buyers Club was by far the best out of all the ones that I've seen. I actually watched 12 Years a Slave last night before the Oscars...and I wasn't really impressed by it. While obviously the story is sad...the pacing?(not sure if that is the correct word describe it) felt very off.

If the movie wasn't called 12 years then I would have maybe thought a year or two at most had gone by (except being surprised at the end when he gets reunited with his family...then would have realized that a lot of time had passed). Everything was just so smashed together, one scene he's being loaned off to entertain at parties and then the next scene he's back with Michael Fassbender. He gets rescued one scene, next scene immediately reunited with his family...then movie ends immediately. And that was pretty much how the entire movie goes... I usually get pretty teary in movies when an emotional scene happens and when he gets reunited with his family it was so anticlimactic, I just didn't care. Overall, pretty disappointed with how hyped up the movie is and everyone singing praises to it...Dallas Buyer's Club blew it out of the water in my opinion. But whatever I guess...overall I do think the Best Picture nominees were pretty weak compared to other years.

Editing: Found it funny that as I was posting this another poster basically posts and says the same thing as me lol. Glad I'm not the only one that felt that way about it.
 
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I think the only way Leo DeDaprio will ever win an oscar is to play a gay man with a black lover who gets killed by a white supremacist in the south. These Oscars seemed to all about Gays / Racism, so poor Leo missed out...again.
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I tried to check the years where there were nominated actors plying in movies related to gays and racism:

2013: McConaughey for Dallas Buyers Club (gay related over Ejiofor in 12 Years A Slave)

2012: Day-Lewis for Lincoln (racism topic)

2009 Bridges for Crazy Heart (over Firth as a gay man in A Single Man)

2008 Penn for Milk (gay man)

2006 Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland (not too sure there is much of a race card when the part is an african dictator when you have Will Smith playing a struggling father in The Pursuit of Happyness).

2005 Hoffman for Capote (the character is gay but that plays very little part in the movie as opposed to Ledger in Brokeback Mountain!)

2004 Foxx for Ray (wouldn't the race card be Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda though? Ray being the handicapped card).

2001 Washington for Training Day (the race theme is more present with Smith's Ali)

2000 Crowe for Gladiator (does that count as gay card?)

1999 Spacey for American Beauty (over Washington in The Hurricane)

1998 Benigni in Life Is Beautiful (the racism movie was American History X so I guess it does not count)

1993 Hanks for Philadelphia

So in 21 editions, 105 nominations, 5 for gay related movies for 3 wins (though all three wins also played the dramatic weight loss card), 4 for racism related movies for 1 win (slightly better odds than normal), 12 black nominees for 3 wins (slightly better odds than normal). Not really a stranglehold on the award.
 
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Faiona_sl said:
Editing: Found it funny that as I was posting this another poster basically posts and says the same thing as me lol. Glad I'm not the only one that felt that way about it.
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And you both chose to spoil the end of the movie too! Awesome.
 
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I thought it was strange because I never really hear white people do that (outside of Tebow). But I guess being raised inTEXASmight have something to do with that.

He's got a really good shot at winning a best actor Emmy for True Detective this year. It's a damn good year for him. Top of the game in both movies and TV.
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Texas motherfucker. He was born and raised in Texas and attended the University of Texas.
 
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they don't show the black guy age, it could be summercamp on a plantation really, what they should have done is focus on his family every 30mins. once of his young daughter, then as a teenager, then dating, then giving birth. instead of just, bamm here's your family. heck how many years or was it just months did he spend with cumberbatch vs. fassbender? you don't know, b/c not only does the black guy not age, the white plantation owners don't age either, or give birth, or anything, if it wasn't for white guilt, movie is shit.
 
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Oops! Was an honest mistake trying to wrap up my feelings in a single sentence. Changed for what it is worth at this point.
 
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And you both chose to spoil the end of the movie too! Awesome.
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I apologize, I'm very sorry about that. I edited my post and put it in spoiler tags so as to not spoil anyone else's experience of the movie. Sorry again.
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i really like leo, and i think he deserved to win an oscar at least twice in his career (for gilbert grape and for blood diamond)
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If there was ever a movie in which Leo should've won best actor, I think it was Revolutionary Road. I still think that's the best male acting performance I've ever seen, in terms of the emotional range present. However, there's no way in hell he should've won for Wolf of Wall Street. It just wasn't that strong of a performance and I don't think an Oscar should be given out on the premise of "body of work", to a dude who is only 39.
 
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I have a number of issues with 12 years a slave, but the fact we can hardly perceive the passing of time is not one. I would even argue that it serves both the discourse (his life is put on hold, in a stasis) and the ending of the movie. An ending that I found very powerfulbecauseof its understatement.

My gripes are about the music and its usage and a lack of didacticism: the movie hints at a complexity seldom addressed in movies on the same topic (with things like the value of slaves or white men being hired for slave labor), but never really explores it to explain its paradoxes (the slaves are somehow both precious and disposable). Also, as we follow the life of Northup, I would have liked to get a better context, a better sense as to what was exceptional and what was the norm in the events and characters we saw. For instance, maybe Fassbender's and Pitt's characters were very close to the real people they are based on, but as fictional characters they are painfully Manichean (to the point it feels like Pitt jumped out of a time machine).
 
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It also happens that The Wind Rises, while very original and with moments of pure cinematic grace, is a bit shit. The insufferable 'by mouth' soundscape and atrocious dubbing - and I mean the original dub: mumbled lines, no intent, horrible timing the whole way through - made it almost unwatchable for me and the plot is at best depressing and at worst abject (not because of the war planes but because of the relationship with his wife). That said I have not seen Frozen. I suspect the best of The Wind Rises is leagues above it, but that, as a whole, Frozen is the better movie.
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Yeah, given the choice between a mediocre Ghibli and the best film Disney's made in two decades or so I'd say the Academy got that one right.
 
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Texas motherfucker. He was born and raised in Texas and attended the University of Texas.
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I laughed at this article last week:The 2014 Haters Guide To The Oscars

specifically re: McConaghey:

Matthew McConaghey:He played a Texan! WHAT A FUCKING STRETCH. Just a remarkable transformation from Regular Laconic Texan to Alarmingly Thin Laconic Texan. It might just be the best Texan role McConaghey has ever played, and Lord knows you have choices in that department. Just look at his iMDB profile!

  • Mysterious Texan,True Detective(2014)
  • Scary Texan,Frailty(2001)
  • Horny Texan,Dazed & Confused(1993)
  • Homicidal Texan,Killer Joe(2011)
  • Brave Texan,Lone Star(1996)
  • Guy Literally Named Dallas,Magic Mike(2012)
  • Matt Schaub,Untitled ESPN Docudrama(2018)
I couldn't even see the actor anymore. All I could see was the Texas. Just an amazing performance.
 
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