2025-2026 NFL Season Thread - God hates the Chargers

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The one game is on general Youtube, and is apparently part of the package that bought NFL Sunday Ticket rights for this year: The Exclusive Home of NFL Sunday Ticket - YouTube & YouTube TV

Note that this version of Sunday Ticket does require you to already have a YoutubeTV sub, so its not quite as enticing if you aren't already a sub for that.
so you mean pirate it right? Fuck paying for Sunday ticket. I'm still mad that I have to pay for Youtube TV but my wife is a TV junkie.
 
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Jerra playing 6d chess?

Getting an epidural, I didn’t even know he was pregnant 🫃
 
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2 1sts and Kenny Clark.
Wait, we got la flama blanca?

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Could be a hershel like trade. Dude they got in return ain't no slouch
It aint no herchel trade, not enough picks/potential picks. But it is similar in that it's the best player on the team, everyone across the board thinks it's idiotic, and his own fans hate him for it. We'll have to wait 2-3 years and see if we start winning superbowls I guess.

But I do admit we need more help on the interior d-line than at rusher. I dunno who this guy is, I hope he's a fireplug. In the limited stuff I've been listening to, everyone is spending all their time pissing and moaning about the loss of micah and no time on a scouting report on kenny.


Getting an epidural, I didn’t even know he was pregnant 🫃

If that's a cortisone shot, I think you can only get 2 of those in the same spot in your lifetime because they eat away at your cartlidge.
 
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I can see a world where getting 2 firsts and not having to pay $47M a year isn't the worst thing for Dallas in the medium term. But he could have gotten more draft capital had he made him available back before the Draft, and would have gotten picks that helped this year.
This sort of rationalization only makes sense if Jerrah had done this shit much earlier in the offseason. As it is, we got Parsons for two picks we likely won't need and in a contract that is very cap friendly. And (barring injury) Parsons fills a major hole in our defense, even if he misses some time for whatever reason. Really the only major gap we have after this is secondary, unless Parsons is a total bust (unlikely, at least in the regular season). As a Packer Fan, it feels like we engaged in elder abuse by making this trade with Jerrah.
 

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As it is, we got Parsons for two picks we likely won't need and in a contract that is very cap friendly.
Is it cap friendly? All I've seen is 'highest paid non QB' and 'shitload of guaranteed money'. I think I heard early on that the guaranteed money was the sticking point with jerrah. I know there are ways to make those contracts cap friendly, but if there's an injury that guaranteed money suddenly becomes very un cap friendly.

If my curse works his legs will fall soon off. Or maybe Jerry's will. I left the target vague on purpose.
 

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The way the money is spread out it leaves us with a lot of options and space, especially with clearing Clark off the roster. Clark was good for us, but he has fell off a cliff the last two years and his run D stats are worse than Parson's were last year so I am not to worried about him going to Dallas. The final year will be a bit dicey, but that shit always gets renegotiated or extended anyhow.

And you can't account for injury, really. He has been mostly healthy and even last year when he was dinged up he put up top numbers. I am more worried about Love's health than Parsons. If Jerrah had actually thought about it, This is not Aaron Rodgers with a glass jaw here. This is a 27 year old player at their apex of physical ability. The guy Jerrah should have demanded in the trade was Clark and I am fucking baffled at how we even got to keep him on the same roster as Parsons.

And I know people are calling Parsons a playoff bust, but that blowout two years ago was because the Dallas D let Aaron Jones run all over them (which he had been doing for years already) and the inability of Dallas to put points on the board and protect the football early. Mike McFatass as the HC was practically a gift wrapped guarantee of epic meltdown. Packer Fans knew this and even tried to warn the Cowboys fans. Jerrah hiring that idiot, let alone sticking with him as long as he did, is what did all the damage to that team.
 

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You won't get any argument from me on mcdumbass (I'm not going to make fun of his weight because I'm a fatass too). But parsons was part of the problem with the run D. It will be interesting to see if he still gets hurt and production drops off at the end of the year. If he doesn't that might mean something is wrong with the cowboys training staff.

BTW when I said injury in the last post, I mean season or career ending injury. I've personally been worried about that with him the last 2 years. He's a warrior. He gets banged up and still wants to play at 80% or even 50%. But those are the times when you take serious injuries.

I am more worried about Love's health than Parsons. If Jerrah had actually thought about it, This is not Aaron Rodgers with a glass jaw here. This is a 27 year old player at their apex of physical ability. The guy Jerrah should have demanded in the trade was Clark and I am fucking baffled at how we even got to keep him on the same roster as Parsons.
Was this a typo? We did get clark. Who were you talking about? Surely you weren't talking about the QB.
 
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This sort of rationalization only makes sense if Jerrah had done this shit much earlier in the offseason. As it is, we got Parsons for two picks we likely won't need and in a contract that is very cap friendly. And (barring injury) Parsons fills a major hole in our defense, even if he misses some time for whatever reason. Really the only major gap we have after this is secondary, unless Parsons is a total bust (unlikely, at least in the regular season). As a Packer Fan, it feels like we engaged in elder abuse by making this trade with Jerrah.

Not really rationalization, just pointing out the obvious. He always lets his ego get in the way and waits until the last minute to do deals. Dak, Lamb, etc. If he realizes they aren't going to get a deal done for whatever reason earlier, they likely get an additional mid round pick in the bidding leading up to the draft. Plus they'd have actually gotten and extra 1st this year and potentially another pick this year to help out the team this year.

I don't know how cap friendly the deal is, seemed weird to go $5M a year average over everyone else. And while you can make the case you won't "need the picks", the opportunity cost of not being able to have 2 young potential starters (even if mid to late picks) on cheap deals for the next 4-5 years is something nobody usually factors in.


Barnwell: The NFL-altering Micah Parsons trade, and what comes next for the Cowboys and Packers

Before the start of this offseason, the top of the edge rusher market was Nick Bosa's contract, which came in at $34 million per season. At that point, Bosa was the only edge rusher in the league making more than $28.5 million per year, meaning the 49ers star was already a meaningful outlier relative to the rest of the players at his position.

Since then, the top has blown off. Myles Garrett's new four-year deal averaged $40 million per season, while T.J. Watt's $41 million contract took the price for edge rushers up even further. Though I suspect there's some fluff in Parsons' contract, the early reports suggest that his new deal with the Packers is for four years and $188 million, averaging a whopping $47 million per year. That's 38% more than what Bosa was making and 66% more than the average salary of the second-largest edge rusher contract (Josh Hines-Allen, $28.25 million) heading into the 2025 league year.

By trading those two first-rounders to the Cowboys, the Packers are incurring the opportunity cost of missing out on potential starters and roster contributors on below-market deals. We'll never see who they would have picked, of course, but they'll need to fill their roster in other ways, either by signing free agents or by using other draft picks that are less likely to pan out in place of those potential first-rounders.

Ben Baldwin's non-quarterback draft value chart attempts to place a number on what each pick in the draft is worth. If we operate conservatively and assume that the Packers will send the 24th pick in the 2026 and 2027 drafts to the Cowboys, without any future draft discounts, that's an additional $18.2 million per year in opportunity costs that the Packers are assuming by making this trade. You can quibble with the figure, of course, but one thing I can say for sure is that valuing the picks as being worth $0 is wrong.

You have to include the value of what it took to acquire Parsons as part of these numbers. And with the cost of those picks added on top of his deal, Parsons will cost the Packers more than $65 million per season over the next four years. The four-time Pro Bowler will make more, at least implicitly, than any other player in the game -- his old teammate Prescott included -- and twice as much as Bosa, who was the highest-paid edge rusher in the NFL a few months ago.

Now they note there is probably some fluff in Parson's contract, and I'm not sure what exact details have come out to show exactly how much fluff there is. Also they're guessing what picks GB would be sending to Dallas, so not exact science. But the opportunity cost is real.

All that said, he does fill the biggest need on their defense, which was already pretty damn good. Packers all in, and have to be considered legit contenders if they can get the play out of Love they hope for.
 

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Shit. I just realized we're playing the green bay micahs in week 4.
 
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Like I said last week, Micah is what the Packers need, but it is expensive for the Packers, regardless if the media all want to view this as Exhibit A of Jerrah's Senility.
(Personally, Jerrah seems like he sticks more and more to demanding players - and coaches - finish out their agreed to contracts, like not letting McCarthy talk to teams early. Whether that matches how the world works now is another story.)

Kinda seems like one of those situations that that are either boom or bust with no in-between:
Either Micah works out and the Packers are back to being a perennial NFC Championship Game participant most years.
Or injury issues (that back isn't a great start) are real and the Packers have a complete rebuild once Micah and Love's contracts are up with nothing to show for it other than occasional Divisional Round appearances. (They'll need money for Golden's renewal at that point, for instance.)
 

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You won't get any argument from me on mcdumbass (I'm not going to make fun of his weight because I'm a fatass too). But parsons was part of the problem with the run D. It will be interesting to see if he still gets hurt and production drops off at the end of the year. If he doesn't that might mean something is wrong with the cowboys training staff.

BTW when I said injury in the last post, I mean season or career ending injury. I've personally been worried about that with him the last 2 years. He's a warrior. He gets banged up and still wants to play at 80% or even 50%. But those are the times when you take serious injuries.


Was this a typo? We did get clark. Who were you talking about? Surely you weren't talking about the QB.
Yeah sorry I meant Gary.
 
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Not really rationalization, just pointing out the obvious. He always lets his ego get in the way and waits until the last minute to do deals. Dak, Lamb, etc. If he realizes they aren't going to get a deal done for whatever reason earlier, they likely get an additional mid round pick in the bidding leading up to the draft. Plus they'd have actually gotten and extra 1st this year and potentially another pick this year to help out the team this year.

I don't know how cap friendly the deal is, seemed weird to go $5M a year average over everyone else. And while you can make the case you won't "need the picks", the opportunity cost of not being able to have 2 young potential starters (even if mid to late picks) on cheap deals for the next 4-5 years is something nobody usually factors in.


Barnwell: The NFL-altering Micah Parsons trade, and what comes next for the Cowboys and Packers
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We already went through this exact scenario when we decided to pass on Kalil Mack in favor of the two mid tier guys we signed. Mack went on to terrorize us and the two other guys were never healthy at the same time while costing us nearly as much as Mack. And before that when we went and got White, we went to two SB and won one. With the youth of the team, we have a fair amount of cap space to play with for the next three years, at least. Four years from now (or if Love keeps getting dinged up) it will be a different story, but we will at least know his worth to the team fully by then.

And thing is elite LBs are rarer than capable QBs in the NFL, especially in the modern era. There are maybe half a dozen guys who play to the level of Parsons (Hutch being the other standout). But even on our roster, we have a pretty decent backup with Malik, who has won most of his starts. This was the perfect pick up at the best possible time for us. And we are still the youngest roster in the league. And given our style of offense, Parsons won't have to put the team on his back like he did in Dallas. It might all to go shit, but given the known facts its just an amazing trade for us.

Now they note there is probably some fluff in Parson's contract, and I'm not sure what exact details have come out to show exactly how much fluff there is. Also they're guessing what picks GB would be sending to Dallas, so not exact science. But the opportunity cost is real.

All that said, he does fill the biggest need on their defense, which was already pretty damn good. Packers all in, and have to be considered legit contenders if they can get the play out of Love they hope for.

Remember also that the guy he is replacing effectively was a worse run defender than he was (and fell off in numerous stats the last two years), but a proven lockeroom leader. Thing is that SHOULD be good for Dallas, but I think there is just too much drama for it to matter. And yeah the guy Jerrah should have grabbed to save some face would have been Gary. Taking Clark solved even more problems for us in the end. The only thing a couple of late 1st rounders will potentially do for the Cowboys is maybe give them a shot at a serviceable CB or WR. Not elite, but good enough for the money. And Dallas probably needs some depth in both areas, so I don't entirely laugh at that rationalization as pure cope. But they handled this whole thing in the worst possible way because thats what Jerrah does.
 

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The only thing a couple of late 1st rounders will potentially do for the Cowboys is maybe give them a shot at a serviceable CB or WR. Not elite, but good enough for the money. And Dallas probably needs some depth in both areas, so I don't entirely laugh at that rationalization as pure cope. But they handled this whole thing in the worst possible way because thats what Jerrah does.
The one thing Dallas actually does well is draft. Those late round picks will never be used at the numbers they come in at. THey will either be packaged with Dallas earlier picks to move up even further in the 1st round or traded down to get more picks later. Moving up for a Dak replacement would be ideal.
 
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Thats my thought as well. I think Jerrah is looking to get in the bidding war for Archie.
 
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