5G researchers manage record 1Tbps wireless connection speed

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It could/will be used for backhaul connections for towers theoretically, lowering the cost *significantly* of new towers, which currently require expensive fiber connections, which would "trickle down" higher speeds to both congested areas (too many people per tower) as well as rural areas (too much area per tower).

If you could theoretically triple the number of cell towers in both rural and congested urban areas, overall service would greatly improve, while not costing more to the provider. Backhaul is one of the biggest costs insofar as setting up a new cell site. (or so I've read)
Licensed backhaul using existing radios is already far cheaper than engineering new radios and antennas for 5G. 6,11,18ghz 1gbps radios can be had for <$20k from Exalt (for a complete link), and I am sure Ubiquiti will have a 5-10k link out in the next year or two.

I believe the problem is self interference or over utilization of existing spectrum, not necessarily tower density. That is why refining the existing spectrum would be important (or moving forward with LTE-U and doing it that way). I see wifi offloading or soho routers with 5G microcells as a possibility though.
 

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Smart phone retina screens playing 4k holo-3dporn before you can say 'Siri'? I eagerly await my 5G overlords
 

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Licensed backhaul using existing radios is already far cheaper than engineering new radios and antennas for 5G. 6,11,18ghz 1gbps radios can be had for <$20k from Exalt (for a complete link), and I am sure Ubiquiti will have a 5-10k link out in the next year or two.
You do realize that 1Tbps is quite a bit quicker than 1gbps right? How many people using LTE does it take to saturate a 1gbs connection? Not many.
 

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You do realize that 1Tbps is quite a bit quicker than 1gbps right? How many people using LTE does it take to saturate a 1gbs connection? Not many.
It was to show that backhaul isn't really that expensive now. PTP 100 meter lab tests dont mean shit either. I'll have to look up what LTE can do, but I thought it was around 250mbps per sector.
 

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Okay so here is what I found. Note that I have no idea about theoretical throughput vs real world, channel planning, etc for LTE. I am going to take the maximum theoretical throughput and assume that will cover for my lack of knowledge on the rest of that-

The ENTIRE 700mhz spectrum is roughly 100mhz wide. Here is a map showing what they actually have by region (because they dont own the entire spectrum):http://assets.fiercemarkets.net/publ...nspectrum1.jpg

That map shows that in most areas they have <30mhz, but for the sake of me not knowing shit, lets still assume 100mhz.

Theoretical downstream throughput is 299.6Mbps for 20mhz. In my experience, I use 1/2 theoretical for realistic PTP speeds, and 1/3 for PtMP. However, lets still assume the maximum at a 15Mbps per mhz ratio.

That puts a Verizon 4g tower's maximum downstream throughput at 1.5Gbps. Once again, this is pure speculation, and I would assume it is actually less than that, but I dont know just how good this shit is with GPS sync, channel planning, and other self interference issues. So, for <$40k in backhaul radios (and actually I think this is more like <$20k with Exalts latest line), you are good to go. This puts backhaul in the pennies category for budgeting. Assuming anything I calculated is moderately accurate.
 

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Even Exalt's licensed stuff is all done through bonded channels and multi radio configurations. Depending on your saturation in the area you could spend a long time and a lot of money with comsearch implementing a large network trying to hit those numbers. But like you say PTP 100 meter lab tests don't mean shit either, which is what all the marketing speak in these products is. 1 Gbps, 25 km+ range! Sure, love to see you do 1024QAM at 30 miles in the real world... with your 2ft integrated antenna. Don't get me wrong, we've had success in both 4.9 and 5.8 last mile stuff, I really do like the technology and what it has done for cost effectiveness, but they're kind of going overboard with the carrier class, large backhaul, we can do it all, stuff now.

We did a design for a Statewide deployment using one of these companies and it ended up being almost exactly the same price as quotes from larger microwave vendors; Alcatel, Aviat, MNI, etc... Because once you add everything required for performance requirements, it ends up being more or less the same quote. Maybe someone gets away with a 6' UHX antenna and someone else wants an 8'.

We did some investigation using LTE as a backhaul solution a couple of years back and it just wasn't going to work. It has pretty much left my head but it just wasn't suited for the requirements of being a true backhaul network as opposed to a subscriber network, and just using like you said something like a PTP high throughout connection. It also had to utilize the, at the time, FirstNET requirements as we understood them. So that could have had something to do with it.
 

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Yeah antenna requirements are a real variable, but I assumed these build outs would either be close enough to avoid 6ghz, or be rural enough to not have the 6' rule. I have no idea what Verizon builds to either. Around here, 4 9's is golden. We even have a regional wireless carrier that runs 5.8 for its backhauls. Quite a few times they have been completely taken down by local WISPs changing channels.