AI: The Rise of the Machines... Or Just a Lot of Overhyped Chatbots?

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Now just imagine you're one of the developers of openoffice or libre office etc, you poured years of your life into making that shit work correctly, and nobody ever used it.

Now there's news stories about people vibe coding your life's work, and they're actually using it now...

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Now just imagine you're one of the developers of openoffice or libre office etc, you poured years of your life into making that shit work correctly, and nobody ever used it.

Now there's news stories about people vibe coding your life's work, and they're actually using it now...

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I always found libre office barely passable and barely usable. I give Microsoft a lot of shit but their office products just work
 
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I always found libre office barely passable and barely usable. I give Microsoft a lot of shit but their office products just work
I hated the ribbon until I got used to it. Now when I use libre office I have to google how to do the ribbon items, lol
 
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That sub model that was printing billions, that they grew fat while everyone starved, <Christopher Walken King of New York reference>the genie is out of the bottle and will never go back in. The era of bespoke applications have arrived, and the Big Tech companies know, and knew it. I mean, lots people will keep paying, and there is value there: Those companies have spent millions over decades crafting and maintaining those apps, to be sure, but the idea that there are hostage monopolies who won't ever go anywhere else, and ideas like ribbons and buttons and icons are Nintendo-like patentable, are going to rapidly fade. It's at least part of the reason why the Big Tech are pouring billions/trillions into AI, because all their walled gardens become vulnerable, or at least assailable, in this new era, and they have to be able to offer these services as something that people are going to want to pay for, as other services fall off. It's 1995 and every brand is putting their URL in their commercials for the first time. It's not going to happen overnight, and not all at once but we are seeing those first exciting ripples of change.

Look at the OS Space: Omarchy in the Linux space is so configurable on the fly agentically; there will be hooks into Windows/an agentic version of Windows to be able to do this by Q3/4 next year. Microsoft clings to all of its desktop presence by being default but knows there is a real threat coming. Even though they make a bunch of money from other places, Azure/Datacenter/etc, M365/Office etc all depends on its defaultancy. They know their first AI efforts have failed and are desperately racing to catch up.

It's like secrets and encryption in any era of Quantum Computing: they almost become Whale Oil. From someone who could never code to someone who will have an app on the Apple App Store in a month, the scope of what's possible is rapidly changing, and regulation and the law/courts etc will never be able to keep up, just like when the Internet arrived.

 
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does she look too skinny to be a long distance runner? as an asian, she looks fine to me, maybe a bit too skinny, but shes also a marathoner. why is she here?

she died 500ft from the finish line

also why is she here? she was some ai semiconductor researcher

conveinient conspiracy death? shes been a marathoner for 4years, so it's not her first rodeo
 

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No. Marathon runners can look like regularl fit people, but they frequently look like skeletons shambling through a track.


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The best is when marathoners stop marathoning and they chunk up, they look like the most unfit people ever since they never gained any kind of muscle and just look like chunky old people now even when they're like 40.
 

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That sub model that was printing billions, that they grew fat while everyone starved, <Christopher Walken King of New York reference>the genie is out of the bottle and will never go back in. The era of bespoke applications have arrived, and the Big Tech companies know, and knew it. I mean, lots people will keep paying, and there is value there: Those companies have spent millions over decades crafting and maintaining those apps, to be sure, but the idea that there are hostage monopolies who won't ever go anywhere else, and ideas like ribbons and buttons and icons are Nintendo-like patentable, are going to rapidly fade. It's at least part of the reason why the Big Tech are pouring billions/trillions into AI, because all their walled gardens become vulnerable, or at least assailable, in this new era, and they have to be able to offer these services as something that people are going to want to pay for, as other services fall off. It's 1995 and every brand is putting their URL in their commercials for the first time. It's not going to happen overnight, and not all at once but we are seeing those first exciting ripples of change.

Look at the OS Space: Omarchy in the Linux space is so configurable on the fly agentically; there will be hooks into Windows/an agentic version of Windows to be able to do this by Q3/4 next year. Microsoft clings to all of its desktop presence by being default but knows there is a real threat coming. Even though they make a bunch of money from other places, Azure/Datacenter/etc, M365/Office etc all depends on its defaultancy. They know their first AI efforts have failed and are desperately racing to catch up.

It's like secrets and encryption in any era of Quantum Computing: they almost become Whale Oil. From someone who could never code to someone who will have an app on the Apple App Store in a month, the scope of what's possible is rapidly changing, and regulation and the law/courts etc will never be able to keep up, just like when the Internet arrived.


Dr.Retarded Dr.Retarded this is random and off topic but King of New York is one great movie you need to see if you have not. Fuck now I need to watch it again.
 
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That sub model that was printing billions, that they grew fat while everyone starved, <Christopher Walken King of New York reference>the genie is out of the bottle and will never go back in. The era of bespoke applications have arrived, and the Big Tech companies know, and knew it. I mean, lots people will keep paying, and there is value there: Those companies have spent millions over decades crafting and maintaining those apps, to be sure, but the idea that there are hostage monopolies who won't ever go anywhere else, and ideas like ribbons and buttons and icons are Nintendo-like patentable, are going to rapidly fade. It's at least part of the reason why the Big Tech are pouring billions/trillions into AI, because all their walled gardens become vulnerable, or at least assailable, in this new era, and they have to be able to offer these services as something that people are going to want to pay for, as other services fall off. It's 1995 and every brand is putting their URL in their commercials for the first time. It's not going to happen overnight, and not all at once but we are seeing those first exciting ripples of change.

Look at the OS Space: Omarchy in the Linux space is so configurable on the fly agentically; there will be hooks into Windows/an agentic version of Windows to be able to do this by Q3/4 next year. Microsoft clings to all of its desktop presence by being default but knows there is a real threat coming. Even though they make a bunch of money from other places, Azure/Datacenter/etc, M365/Office etc all depends on its defaultancy. They know their first AI efforts have failed and are desperately racing to catch up.

It's like secrets and encryption in any era of Quantum Computing: they almost become Whale Oil. From someone who could never code to someone who will have an app on the Apple App Store in a month, the scope of what's possible is rapidly changing, and regulation and the law/courts etc will never be able to keep up, just like when the Internet arrived.


Excuse the ignorance, I know jack about coding but these 'vibe-coded' things, how can you be sure they do not have virus / malware / root-kits ? If they can be coded to mimic MS word for instance, could they not be coded to show false clean?
This is a serious question , I'm not baiting anyone.
 

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Dr.Retarded Dr.Retarded this is random and off topic but King of New York is one great movie you need to see if you have not. Fuck now I need to watch it again.
Christopher Walken, Wesley Snipes, Laurence fishburne, David Caruso, I've seen it many of times and I agree it's a fantastic film. I watched it again earlier this year because it was on prime or maybe YouTube.

The Doctor knows the score....
 
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Excuse the ignorance, I know jack about coding but these 'vibe-coded' things, how can you be sure they do not have virus / malware / root-kits ? If they can be coded to mimic MS word for instance, could they not be coded to show false clean?
This is a serious question , I'm not baiting anyone.
How do you know that any of your current software doesn't? Most of the time you just trust your antivirus and the platforms you get your software through and hope for the best. Big platforms aren't infallible, but the less trustworthy the platform the more risk you're at. You're generally protected by lag since by the time you try something, it would have already hit the early adopters and gotten pulled from platforms and added to antivirus lists. And if it's open source, then even if you won't read the code, hopefully other people have.

The better question is always, "if a meteor fell on your computer right this instant, would you lose anything important?" If yes, then you need to work on your backup/redundancy game.
 

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Excuse the ignorance, I know jack about coding but these 'vibe-coded' things, how can you be sure they do not have virus / malware / root-kits ? If they can be coded to mimic MS word for instance, could they not be coded to show false clean?
This is a serious question , I'm not baiting anyone.
Depends how it's released.

If it's open source, you can just check the source and build it yourself. Pretty easy to sniff out illicit stuff in code (or have Claude scan it).

If it's closed source anything could be in there, just like anything you download.
 
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Depends how it's released.

If it's open source, you can just check the source and build it yourself. Pretty easy to sniff out illicit stuff in code (or have Claude scan it).

If it's closed source anything could be in there, just like anything you download.
That trust the closed source is why the upgrade to 26h windows is getting ignored.