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Best piping engineer I have ever worked with is a local on site contractor. We have tried to hire him, but he knows he will be doing the same job, including unpaid overtime, as he does now but instead he gets paid overtime and is paid hourly instead of salary. No brainer on his part. And we eat it because he’s fucking good.

The biggest problem I’ve seen is the George Floyd era resulted in a lot of younger females in Technical Group Leadership. But they gossip, overshare shit they shouldnt, and generally favor women over developing either sex technically (if that makes sense).

Retirement brain drain is hitting hard. And we prioritized “leadership” skills aka bullshitting skills over the introverted, bowels of the plant technical folks. So now we’re left with a fuckton of young engineers that want to be business people and can’t calculate an energy balance or read a pump curve.
Lots of my family in the trades. Pipefitting is a field most people probably don't put much thought into, but I had a relative that was insanely successful as a pipefitter. Being a contractor for the navy with top secret clearance to work on nuclear tech, he retired very comfortably in his early 50s.
 
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Lots of my family in the trades. Pipefitting is a field most people probably don't put much thought into, but I had a relative that was insanely successful as a pipefitter. Being a contractor for the navy with top secret clearance to work on nuclear tech, he retired very comfortably in his early 50s.
Welding is a super in-demand skill, particularly if you’re comfortable with tight quarters and some heights. I lack the agility I’ve seen some of these guys display in full gear. I got a guy I rely on. Total redneck. Tried to catch a skunk with his bare hands at our retaining pond. If it’s broke, and he can’t fix it, you need a new one. Probably our best pipe fitter. He’s worth every bit we pay him which is considerable.
 
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Welding seems to pay shit for the most part. My friends son is a welder and has a hard time finding work but he is new. I would love to hear of more opportunities to send his way.
 

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A lot of people who can lay a bead down call themselves welders....A welder can make good money if and pretty much only if they can weld in all posistions, in several processes (Mig, stick, Tig, Submerged arc etc...) on multiple alloys (low carbon steel, stainless, aluminum, high nickle content etc..), can set up the machine, follow a multi page procedure for the weld in questions, and being able to pass a drug test doesn't hurt. I don't think production welders make well, welding the same weld day after day on production line type deal.

A lot of guys can come in can pass a weld test if someone sets up the machine and tells them how they want it welded. The guys that make good money can set the machines and make the weld. In really good paying jobs on high dollar alloys there will be a high percentage of the welds tested (Xray, mag particle, dye pentrtion) and their pass/fall percentage will be tracked.

So anyway welder is a pretty big umbrella. There was a guy I worked with that after Vietnam he was trained as a pipe welder by the union. He went to AK to weld on the pipeline and then various other places and finished up on the local nuclear plant before transitioning into the office. The guys in the structural shops I deal with don't make all that well. All their stuff is welded with flux core so it's not like TiG. Now plate shops that do all TiG and submerged arc the guys who set it up (automated trolley that lays down the flux and welds behind it while moving along) and various alloys they do pretty well.

If you really want to make good money welding at this point you are going to be willing ot move around. If it's real high paying in one location nowdays it will be automated.
 
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In our case, this guy can weld all the way up to super stainless. He’s responsible for a wide array of skills and jobs that keep a 24-7 operation going. He’s completely self sufficient. But like said - everything we do has to pass dye pen or x-ray or hydro. It’s all custom work. A lot of retrofit.
 
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Welding seems to pay shit for the most part. My friends son is a welder and has a hard time finding work but he is new. I would love to hear of more opportunities to send his way.
My ex brother in law worked on the pipeline and made a killing. Big problem is you're constantly moving, so he'd have to be ok being a nomad.
 

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A lot of guys can come in can pass a weld test if someone sets up the machine and tells them how they want it welded. The guys that make good money can set the machines and make the weld. In really good paying jobs on high dollar alloys there will be a high percentage of the welds tested (Xray, mag particle, dye pentrtion) and their pass/fall percentage will be tracked.
When I've been hiring welders/fabricators, I would always turn all the settings to zero on the welders and then ask for "X" type of weld.
Even give them a few test runs to feel the machine.
Anyone who asked for me to set it up for them got everything at 11. Haha
 

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My ex brother in law worked on the pipeline and made a killing. Big problem is you're constantly moving, so he'd have to be ok being a nomad.

The guy I mentioned that worked on the Alaskan pipeline as a welder then other things before moving into the office he wound up having back surgery and he blamed it on his pipeline work. Leaning over, crawling ontop of and under pipelines and stuff. No idea if that is true or not.

In my limited experience it's good to be a welder and pick up various skills along the way related to it through your work. Some welderss however only want to be a welder. Fitting, layout of pipe pentration templates and such are just a few things I know a couple of guys picked up and can do multiple things besideds weld. I know guys that work on the more expensive alloys make a lot more. The new hotness in petrochemical and power plant work is high nickle stuff like hastalloy which is $55/pound compared to the low carbon regular stuff which is a couple of dollars a pound. Same with titanium but we do a very little amount of titanium, one or two pipe flanges on a large job at most.

Yes, moving around for pipeline work is pretty much required. But large fabrication using high end alloys is pretty stable. However like the hastalloy I mentioned there are only two companies in the US that do the large fabrication of it for petrochemical and power plants but that limits the number of jobs obviously.

My friend picked up pipe welding from a union after Vietnam. I don't think that is a thing anymore. He had spent all of Vietnam in Alaska so it was a good fir to go weld on the pipeline.
 
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