Archery - As a Hobby

Duskoy

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I have a 31.5 VXR in green, its a really good bow. Did you go with the 28 or 31.5? I leave the limb bolts maxed out, you can change the module out if you want to different draw weights.

For 3d targets the best on the market bar none are Rinehart, they are not cheap but you can leave them outside 24/7 and they last. Even in Canada with our winters the targets hold up great.

Here is my turkey target with a scorpion one in the background.

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I ordered a Green 31.5 in lefty. I tried the 28 but the 31.5 felt better in the hand. I was going to go righty although im left eye dominant (but right handed). I was shooting better lefty though so ordered it in lefty. Do you have any reccomendations for a rest and a sight?
 

Duskoy

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In regards to arrows I am pretty lost too. I ordered the bow in 28 inch draw length @60lb draw weight. I am new to archery
 

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I ordered a Green 31.5 in lefty. I tried the 28 but the 31.5 felt better in the hand. I was going to go righty although im left eye dominant (but right handed). I was shooting better lefty though so ordered it in lefty. Do you have any reccomendations for a rest and a sight?
I went with a Hamskey drop away rest, the Hybrid hunter Pro, bonus was they had it in green which matches the bow nicely. For a sight I went with a BlackGold 3 pin sight, I didn't want the sight cluttered with too many pins and I wanted more than a single pin so I could have 3 different yardages set on the pins without touching the slider. Keep in mind this is a hunting setup, I have no idea what the pure target guys would be using.

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Duskoy

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I went with a Hamskey drop away rest, the Hybrid hunter Pro, bonus was they had it in green which matches the bow nicely. For a sight I went with a BlackGold 3 pin sight, I didn't want the sight cluttered with too many pins and I wanted more than a single pin so I could have 3 different yardages set on the pins without touching the slider. Keep in mind this is a hunting setup, I have no idea what the pure target guys would be using.

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Awesome, I was looking at Black Gold and a friend just recommended me the new Mountain Lite by them, going to order it. I am doing a hunting build too as I want to hunt some White Tail in the Northeast. I will check out the Hamskey, it kinda looks like a tank. How is the durability?
 

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So these arrow the shop made me - the nocks don't hold well on the bow string at all. I can't even shoot three fingers under otherwise the arrow falls off when I'm doing that initial pull at 45 degrees down.

Are these shitty nocks? Are they normally one size fits all or could they be sized wrong for my bow string?
 

Foler

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You can learn if you get a jig and whatnot. They make sleeves now you can heat shrink I think that are 3 vanes on one deal so you don't have to glue each vane. Never used them so don't know. Strip the arrow and apply the deal and done super quick. You'll rapidly learn to shoot at different points of impact or you will go through a ton of broken arrows, ripped fletching and all each time you hit another arrow.

$14 a pop is pretty high. I used to pay about $10 each fletched and cut to length with insert for ACE arrows which were pretty high dollar, arbon around a thin aluminum shaft. Super light.

Like everything else you can make it super simple or put a ton more work and money into it. I have an arrow cutoff and a fletching jig. It's a lot of work. It's not as simple as it looks to get it as quick and done as good as someone that has fletched thousands and thousands of arrows. Takes time to get it down.

In all honestly for hunting I've had as much luck with old xx75 aluminum arrows and then carbon and then ACE. I got more speed as I went but dead was dead.

Then after you get fletching down you can try all kinds of arrows quickly to compare them. Easton, then Carbon Express, then Beeman (if they still even make those) the list goes on and on and on and on.
Thanks borzak. Right now I'm shooting 500 spine Bearpaw Penthalon Bandit Shafts, cut to about 29.4 inches, 4 inch feather vanes and field points.

Seems like if I'm shooting outdoors I should be using smaller vanes?

Also looking at


But comes in straight or helical, trying to figure out which to get..

How do you decide on length of arrow shaft? I figure I may have lancaster archery just precut shafts for me while I get fletching down and eventually do my own cutting.


 

Foler

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Also my setup is a galaxy crescent riser with Limbs ILF Galaxy Bronze Star 68" 28 lbs pull weight.
 

Borzak

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Been a long time since I fletched. I have straight, left and right helical clamps. Use the same bitzenburger. Just be aware it's pretty fiddly to get them set right to use the first time. Once you got it it's set it and forget it. Clean your arrows where the vanes will be glued on.

The length of the arrow you can measure to your rest and add some to it. When you bought your bow or they made your arrows they should have given you a sheet on the receipt that listed the length of the arrow as cut, the spine, left/right helical/ what vanes etc...were used in the building of the arrows.

Straight nocks sound like those old school straight notch arrows that were mainly used for traditional archery. Modern nocks snap onto the string. They have a bunch of different brands. Your nock choice should have been listed on the build sheet for the arrows as well.

Archery talk website has a whole section on arrow making.

Always shot bonning nocks like these.
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So if you get someone else to build them they should make a built sheet with type of arrow, type of vane (color of all 3 and how you want the cock feather, the off color one cock up, cock left, cock right etc..) nocks, length, insert used and if you want the vanes fletched with a certain fletch like 120, 4 at 90degrees or straight fletch etc...

If I get motivated I have a few boxes under my bed I may look and see if I have a build sheet later.
 
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Borzak

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One last thing. It takes a LOOOONG time to fletch a dozen arrows with one jig. You have to gluve on vane at a time, let it set, rotate it and glue the second vane, then the last. Takes time and at the start you'll strip off a fair number. Buy vanes in bulk.

At a good bow shop they have 12 jigs going around a circle on a turntable. Someone sits down glues up 1 vane rotates the turntable and works around all 12 then the second vane until all 3 are glued down and then sit there to dry. Only takes up a little more than an arrow in length since they are pointed back at the others, hard to explain but it ends up in a circle. You see them often in pro shops with a dozen arrows on it all jigged up ready to go. Some do it 6 at a time in a line, always looked like the round deal on a turntable worked much faster.

You get the idea, but on a piece of plywood that's round that sits on a turntable.

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Personally if you are just starting out and don't want to eat up hours and hours of time, order them pre cut, pre fletched. Several places do it. Much cheaper than buying a jig or however many. It's not instant success and takes a lot of time to get it down to where it works out compared to odering a dozen off a site that they do it for a living. They make some cheaper jigs that fold up around the arrow and you can do all 3 at a time. Meh, but probably good for a touch up if you shoot a few vanes off.
 
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If I get back into it, I'm going to get a mongolian bow.

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Foler

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Borzak Borzak whats the best way to improve? Just shoot often or video tape yourself to critique form and watch youtube vids?
 

Borzak

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No idea really. Grew up with it 40 years ago and shot a lot. So shoot a lot I guess.
 
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