Ashes of Creation

jayrebb

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What class are you playing caster or something? At least for melee classes you always have your e basic 3 point combo attack it has no cd

The point is you can spam your highest damage ability in Vanguard and have the expected result. For Vanguard caster there is no CD on your main highest damage nuke, just a resource limitation which doesn't come into play in a single fight. In fact this limitation doesn't come into play for several fights in a row.

There's a reason why people are saying Ashes combat is slower despite being relatively well-designed. It's not a positive or negative for me personally-- but I get why Fucker and others are saying it plays slower like a 15-20 year old game.
 
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Agraza

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def seeing a lot of hate. havent tried it yet. too many games, not enough time. hope it recovers, i do miss the MMO experience. I had some fun in FF14, but the aesthetic and the basic J story is tepid.
 
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Amycus

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Eh, game is nowhere near done.

But for me it does scratch a bit of an “old school” itch. Hanging out just camped and grinding mobs in a group is relaxing and fun for me. I don’t need to nonstop be pushing buttons and moving around dodging fire to enjoy a mmo.

Probably not a long term game, but I’ve had enough fun in 15 levels to warrant the purchase I think.
 
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Lunis

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I'm trying it out as well. Did they add some shitty post-processing effect to the game? The whole game has this hazy non-crisp layer on the top of the visuals kind of like call of duty.
 
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Lunis

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I kind of like the skill system so far. Almost no base abilities, you have to spec into everything. Not a huge variety so far but it helps with ability bloat.
 

Mahes

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I think that the level only going up to 25 is making the skill system feel a bit limiting in that you almost get every skill. There is not really a big choice that needs to be made. Most skills are obvious with perhaps a few that can be traded off for PvP or Area effect damage.
 

Bondurant

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I think that the level only going up to 25 is making the skill system feel a bit limiting in that you almost get every skill. There is not really a big choice that needs to be made. Most skills are obvious with perhaps a few that can be traded off for PvP or Area effect damage.
We'll *supposedly* get 2nd archetypes at lvl 25 *soon*.
 

Sloan

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I dont know what level these guys got to but by level 5 my summoner has 3 spells already. I was more worried about ability bloat as the levels increase rather than the 5 seconds i spend autoattacking between abilities at level 5. One or 2 more spells and I won't be autoattacking at all.
You will always weave auto attacks between spells, as there are finisher combos (depending on the weapon being used, 3 4 or 5 hit) that synergize with class abilities. For summoner, for example, your essence is refreshed and your hex spell cooldown decreased on every finisher. Notice 'spirit shred' says that it does not interrupt weapon combo positions, the only summoner spell that is an exception to this rule.

Makes the game have that old school auto attack non-ability spam feel while meshing it with modern systems.
 
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Sloan

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Sloan

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Are you a scorpion?
mount

scorpion fast land speed, not fastest but quite fast.

there are mounts that are faster in water, some that give you underwater breathing. Mounts (raptor) that jump 3x higher, etc.

can hunt them with the hunting skill, then someone with a high enough animal husbandry skill can attempt to turn them into a mount (50% fail chance). Also some very rare world drops from named.

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Lunis

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I've been grinding mobs past level 8 which I don't mind, it's been a while since I've had to find a grinding spot in an mmo. But my god does the quest system suck. They are either too easy, bugged, or totally unfeasible. The goblin goods quest makes the goretusk liver quest seem reasonable and well designed.
 

moonarchia

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I've been grinding mobs past level 8 which I don't mind, it's been a while since I've had to find a grinding spot in an mmo. But my god does the quest system suck. They are either too easy, bugged, or totally unfeasible. The goblin goods quest makes the goretusk liver quest seem reasonable and well designed.
Infinite grinding makes your mast stiff? You might want to check Pantheon out as well. It's like watching a caged sloth death match to see which one will release a finished product first.
 

Daidraco

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The duping has been going on for a minute. The only reason I believe it wasnt super obvious is because the benches werent high enough to make the high end shit. Never mind that someone gave me 10g for a green wolf mount at the end of the first week. Not only is that a lot of gold for such a short time frame, but for a green wolf mount? Easy af to get? I aint going to say no, but gtfo.

Every single chase / goal for me in the game has been hollowed out with just how… i guess I should say, its Alpha state? Devs poor choices? The cheating is just kind of icing on the cake

When I flew out before my families big Christmas dinner - i was already kind of pessimistic towards crafting. Item drops from mobs being able to drop, plentifully, at blue con (hi2u Ashen gear and similar). But the occasional drops from heroic up to legendary, too. That shit wouldnt be so bad if you, as a crafter, could make similar gear at the same time - but the tables werent even high enough to make similar or better gear yet. You know - during the actual fkn rush period where everyone is in that level range?

Worse yet is the time commitment to make something similar in the first place. How long do you have to gather to get the blue components just to match the quality of the same armor that drops within 30 minutes of solo farming ghosts? Hours at the very least and that’s not including the time commitment in order to get your crafting, processing and gathering skills up to that point.

The little things like no actual LFG tool and the terrible balancing between classes is to be expected in an alpha. And really, the cheating is too - but the streamer is right. Nothing seems to be happening to these people. It took me all of 30 seconds to find a cheat that gives you up to 15% server side attack speed boost. Flying hack that was mentioned. Up to 55% server side movement speed boost, regardless if you have a crate or not. Etc. Everything that walks the tip toe edge of “Easy Anticheat’s” detection.

Sure, itll get fixed and patched out. But lets not pretend that these individual accounts being investigated will fix the economy. Or that with each account they ban, two more dont get brought online in its place. Gold is already 0.77 cents per. Play for an hour and gamble wih crates? Or just spend less than a monster energy drink and get guaranteed gold in an instant? Hrrmmmm (as if crates were even remotely balanced at the moment between caravans and mules).

So I guess the real recourse is just a wipe. I already knew another one would eventually come, but this whole ordeal has likely moved it up substantially. Faith in the system, much like what New World experienced, has crashed quickly.

Again, I know its Alpha - but my desire to play isnt going to peak over casual. Just too much wrong with the current game, like how idiotic flagging is and at the same time… isnt?

I hope that the steam launch netted the company enough money to get the momentum needed to get the game in a solid place eventually, though. So its not all doomer. Just eventually came to the same conclusion that other people had when they said it wasnt ready for steam. .
 
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jayrebb

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This video is 17mins long about something that could be a tweet, also that "boy o boy" Christmas sweater dude looks so fake of a "gamer" it's painful.

This game sold something like 25k copies right? This is the coverage the game has been getting, and maybe even deserves.

Esfand/Asmon/et al were paid to pretend to care about it for a week-- this is what's left. Ashes might have had an A list budget at one point, but if you have to pay creators to cover your game, and can't get organic quality creators to cover it, the game just might not be all that.
 
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