Avengers: Age of Ultron

Runnen_sl said:

Also, it seems that the Hulk is under mind control during the street fight, becuase he has red eyes and so does Scarlet Witch when she is fighting the good guys, but what's odd is that the Mind Gem in Loki's scepter (that Von Strucker has since Cap 2) normally makes controlled people's eyes blue, not red... so that could be something else. Or they just went with red = evil but I doubt that.

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You explained it in your question. Scarlet witch is controlling hulk.

j00t_sl said:

You explained it in your question. Scarlet witch is controlling hulk.

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Can she control him in the comic? I thought it was almost impossible to mind control The Hulk, I mean you can make him get pissed off and mindless angry but I didnt think he was really able to be controlled like that

Well, yes and no. He's not immune to magic or mind control. But the longer he's controlled, the harder it is to keep him in tow.

The trailer shows Black Widow using the power of redheads and boobs to soothe the Hulk, so we'll have a Scarlet vs Scarlett showdown in sexy mind control maybe.

j00t_sl said:

You explained it in your question. Scarlet witch is controlling hulk.

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Between her and Dr. Strange, it's gonna be awesome to finally see the magic and mysticism wing of the Marvel Universe reporting for duty.

If Hawkeye dies, I hope Jeremy Renner's Hollywood career is just as dead.

I doubt Hawkeye is gonna die. Jeremy was pretty ticked about his role in the first one. He spent the whole movie being mind controlled. He was pretty verbal about not liking it and has been just as verbal about how happy he is with his role in avengers 2

Well so is everyone else

Grizzlebeard_sl said:

I keep hearing how Hawkeye plays a significant part in this movie and wonder exactly how that'll play out. I mean, the previous one was really a Thor/Hulk buddy movie with Stark there for comedic value, Cap for heroic profile "America fuck yeah!", and the rest to escort people on to buses. Slight exaggeration I know but it's tedious when so much screen time is taken up by 'normals' when most of us are there to see superhero shenanigans.

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I'd agree if you meant Thor and Hulk basically did all the heavy lifting with Stark having a 'game plan' and Cap being 'the heart' or whatever. Otherwise I honestly wish their was more Hulk and Thor, Thor especially, but their power is so beyond the others you have to ration it. I mean more or less the Hulk could've just gotten super pissed and thrown the giant worm thing into their mothership and exploded it or some other super Hulk nonsense that is probably canon.

Homsar_sl said:

Can she control him in the comic? I thought it was almost impossible to mind control The Hulk, I mean you can make him get pissed off and mindless angry but I didnt think he was really able to be controlled like that

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Y'all are missing the point that the Mind Gem has infinite power.

j00t_sl said:

Well so is everyone else

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Because everyone dies. Ultron wins.

lanx_sl said:

after WW Hulk, he came back and went to deal w/ xavier, xavier couldn't do shit to him, he was too angry i guess, also hulk is nearly impossible to control cuz he's got all them weird ass personalities, i think about the only ppl able to control him (for a short while) is xavier/jean grey, that's 616.

I still assert that in the trailers tony is the one that is mind controlled/fucked cuz hulk is always around ppl and police, not fucking them up, plus it's too easy to do rampaging hulk smash all the time.

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Im trying to remember the Onslaught shit, that was the only time I can think of someone controlling him and I thought it backfired or something and endied up killing Onslaught?? Been a long ass time

Homsar_sl said:

Im trying to remember the Onslaught shit, that was the only time I can think of someone controlling him and I thought it backfired or something and endied up killing Onslaught?? Been a long ass time

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He got Jean Grey to suppress everything in his mind that wasn't Hulk except for his memories of Betty. Onslaught pinned him down and was taunting him, Hulk monologued a bit then punched him so hard he destroyed his physical form. Which only made him more powerful, but then all the mutants (or non-mutants i forget which) sacrificed themselves to beat him somehow, but then none of that mattered because Franklin Richards imagined them all back to life.

Gavinmad_sl said:

He got Jean Grey to suppress everything in his mind that wasn't Hulk except for his memories of Betty. Onslaught pinned him down and was taunting him, Hulk monologued a bit then punched him so hard he destroyed his physical form. Which only made him more powerful, but then all the mutants (or non-mutants i forget which) sacrificed themselves to beat him somehow, but then none of that mattered because Franklin Richards imagined them all back to life.

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Now I remember the reason I hated the Onslaught Saga.

Gavinmad_sl said:

He got Jean Grey to suppress everything in his mind that wasn't Hulk except for his memories of Betty.

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Huh I thought they turned his human form off all together so he was uncontrollable/mindless and in uber rage

I guess it just depends on what they do with Scarlet witch. She doesn't really do mind control as that is typically a psychic power. It IS possible she cast some sort of befuddlement spell. His eyes are red because that's what the spell is affecting. He is seeing that he's attacking enemies, or perhaps he's seeing stark hurt civilians, or seeing stark insult hulk. Those are the kinds of things that have been effectively used to "control" hulk. But it's not really a new concept. I think that's even got it's own tv tropes section. I'd really rather see a cognizant hulk attacking a morally grey ironman.