Avengers: Endgame (2019)
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Chukzombi
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saw that coming, more pettiness from the Mouse. lets see if they cancel her action figures.
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there's also precedence in the comics that arrogance and self-centeredness in and of itself doesn't make someone "unworthy" because that's just how thor is. a huge piece of being worthy is BELIEVING you're worthy which is a completely arrogant thought in the first place. as soon as thor believes he ISN'T worthy, mjolnir stops responding to him.
Cap is humble enough to not actually believe he's worthy, especially during that scene in age of ultron where no one is fighting, they're just sitting around having drinks. but in endgame, cap doesn't have the luxury to think about anything other than the gravity of the fight and what it will cost everyone if he loses. those moments are when cap is at his best, which is why he could lift it then.
Chukzombi
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except he knew he could summon Mjolnir. the Russo bros even said he knew because he could lift the hammer before. there was never a question of worthiness.
SDCC 2015: Can Captain America Lift Thor’s Hammer? Joss Whedon Answers Tough Questions At Nerd HQ
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Chukzombi
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Kevin Feige: Captain America was always worthy of Mjolnir
Kevin Feige has confirmed that Steve Rogers was indeed always worthy of Mjolnir, but did not lift the hammer out of respect for Thor in Avengers: Age of Ultron. In a Reddit AMA, he said, "We think he was always worthy, and was being polite in Age of Ultron."
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Marvel Studios Exec Reveals Captain America Has Always Been Worthy
It was one of the most exciting moments in Avengers: Endgame. During the battle against 2014 [...]
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"We think he was always worthy and was being polite in Age of Ultron," Feige noted
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whedon is a douchebag and i don't care what he says. i hate directors who try to explain AFTER the fact what was happening in their movies. either explain it in the movie, or don't explain it at all. the only thing we KNOW is that cap DIDN'T lift mjolnir until endgame. we can make all kinds of assumptions and assertations but, again, the fact is cap DIDN'T lift it until endgame.except he knew he could summon Mjolnir. the Russo bros even said he knew because he could lift the hammer before. there was never a question of worthiness.
“How is Steve Rogers not worthy?” a fan asked. “Is he not? Are we sure?” Whedon responded, a hint of teasing in his voice. “Did he fail? Or did he stop?”SDCC 2015: Can Captain America Lift Thor’s Hammer? Joss Whedon Answers Tough Questions At Nerd HQ
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I mean I agree that Whedon is a douchebag but not having a concrete explanation for him not lifting the hammer in AoU I'm 100% on board with. Let imaginations run wild and then have that massive payoff in Endgame.
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Chukzombi
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its called foreshadowing. theyve been foreshadowing tons of things for over ten years. they're just getting around to focusing on the Ten Rings now .
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Gavinmad
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I mean anyone with a brain knew from that look on Thor's face in AoU that one day Cap would wield Mjolnir, we're just quibbling about whether he always could or not. I doubt it was their intention from the beginning, rather they just left it vague and then retroactively decided he always could.
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Worthiness is based on the perspective of a viking warrior god, not whatever bullshit definition you just came up with.
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People really need to get this shit explained?
the hammer is a binary thing. You are worthy or not, you can lift it or not. You re not ‘a tiny bit worthy’ and can move it half an inch. From that scene it was clear cap coulda just grabbed it but out of respect he didnt, except he fucked up and it moved slightly which thor picked up on.
Why the fuck do people need every fucking thing explained to them?
the hammer is a binary thing. You are worthy or not, you can lift it or not. You re not ‘a tiny bit worthy’ and can move it half an inch. From that scene it was clear cap coulda just grabbed it but out of respect he didnt, except he fucked up and it moved slightly which thor picked up on.
Why the fuck do people need every fucking thing explained to them?
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Some of us were busy fingerblasting floozies and pissing out windows on alley bums instead of memorizing comic book lore.
You're nerd raging about people not intuitively grasping how a magic hammer in a comic book movie works.
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because Gavin likes to split hairs. they also muddied the waters with Thor1 when Odin took away Thor's powers and Gavin equated that as a worthiness meter. so when Gavin says "but Cap wasnt worthy enough to lift Mjolnir in Ultron", he means that the worthiness meter he invented in his head said that Cap didnt accrue enough worthiness points on his missions yet to unlock the Mjolnir window..
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Gavinmad
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You shouldn't spew a bunch of shit from your mouth and then suggest that I'm the one inventing stuff in my head.
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