Bartending

Khane · May 5, 2015

We got any bartenders up here on RR? I'm seriously considering going to bartending school to make a little extra cash on nights/weekends and the schools around me seem to vary in tuition range from like $250 to $1700 and I'm wondering why.

Is there any benefit to going to a more expensive school? It seems like there wouldn't be any at all other than maybe connections but those connections might be seriously lucrative considering the vast difference in the kinds of clientele and therefore tips you'd be getting. Anyone have any experience with this?

Remember I am not looking to turn this into any kind of full time gig, it would strictly be nights and weekends, but hopefully mostly weekends. Although I guess bartending is always strictly nights/weekends...

Izo · May 5, 2015

Gotta learn from the best!

hodj · May 5, 2015

Bartending school doesn't do jack to get you into the business unless you're planning on opening like a private catering type service where you bartend for weddings and shit.

Don't waste your time and money.

McCheese · May 5, 2015

My cousin went to bartending school and he says the same thing Hodj said. I imagine you'd need quite a bit of bartending experience in order to work at a place that a) won't be stressful/annoying and b) will give you enough money to make it worth your while. With no bartending experience you'd probably end up having to settle for the type of place where you're either bored out of your mind and making no cash, or just opening bottles of bud light all night long and getting screamed at by drunk chicks looking for their misplaced purses and shoes.

Honestly, working in any service industry seems like a shitty way to make extra cash, unless you have some kind of connection where you can get a plum job with lots of money for little stress.

Ortega · May 5, 2015

Can anyone explain to me how someone who frequently posts about his higher than average income level is considering being a bartender for extra cash, or maybe explain how a person who has frequently said they wouldn't even consider going on a date with someone who makes less than them is going to deal with the rabble rousing crowd that is the bartending profession?

Khane · May 5, 2015

Ortega_sl said:
Can anyone explain to me how someone who frequently posts about his higher than average income level is considering being a bartender for extra cash, or maybe explain how a person who has frequently said they wouldn't even consider going on a date with someone who makes less than them is going to deal with the rabble rousing crowd that is the bartending profession?

Allow me. Bartending seems like a good way to make decent cash (if you can bartend at an OK kind of money making place) for a year or two so I can pay off my mortgage and erase all my debt (mortgage + school loans) quicker. It's hard to walk away from my 9-5 right now because of how much money I make but I don't want to keep working for someone else. I'm too risk averse to start my own venture when I still have mortgage + student loan payments to make.

It also seems like a lot more fun than most other kinds of part time work.

Schags · May 5, 2015

Just watch Bar Rescue and do the exact opposite of what the staff does until Taffer and company rip them apart and teach them the right way.

cabbitcabbit · May 6, 2015

Do not go to bartending school.

Chances are you probably won't be able to land a job as a bartender, if you have zero experience under your belt, anyway unless you know a lot of other bartenders/Bar owners. There's plenty of other routes to make side money.

Quaid · May 6, 2015

You'll never get a gig at a decent spot based on 'bartending school'. Most industry vets kinda joke about it in my experience. Being good looking will get you further than any certificate will, and years in the shit are paramount.

How old are you? Fitness level? Years experience?

Izo · May 6, 2015

Have you thought about being a male escort? Rav can probably hook you up with some sweet dual action.

Harfle · May 6, 2015

Khane_sl said:
We got any bartenders up here on RR? I'm seriously considering going to bartending school to make a little extra cash on nights/weekends and the schools around me seem to vary in tuition range from like $250 to $1700 and I'm wondering why.

Is there any benefit to going to a more expensive school? It seems like there wouldn't be any at all other than maybe connections but those connections might be seriously lucrative considering the vast difference in the kinds of clientele and therefore tips you'd be getting. Anyone have any experience with this?

Remember I am not looking to turn this into any kind of full time gig, it would strictly be nights and weekends, but hopefully mostly weekends. Although I guess bartending is always strictly nights/weekends...

dont waste your time and money on the school, its a joke from what I am told go bar back for a while then step your game up on the slow nights and move into the prime time.

Khane · May 6, 2015

Quaid_sl said:
You'll never get a gig at a decent spot based on 'bartending school'. Most industry vets kinda joke about it in my experience. Being good looking will get you further than any certificate will, and years in the shit are paramount.

How old are you? Fitness level? Years experience?

I kind of figured personality and looks would play a bigger role. I know two bar managers, one of them is a bar manager for the MAX restaurant group here in the CT/MA area but I doubt he'd be able to get me in there, those restaurants are high end and like you guys said I'm a newbie.

But I'm fairly certain I'd be able to get a job. I ain't no troll.

And let's get one thing out of the way. We're talking about being a bartender here gents, not trying to be the next Elon Musk. I can't believe some of you guys are actually trying to say I won't be able to find a job.... bartending.

Deathwing · May 6, 2015

You should definitely go the gigalo route. Make more money, meet women who make a lot of money(see marriage thread), then become disappointed when those women fail your impossible standards.

Khane · May 6, 2015

You guys are funny claiming I have impossible standards. Stop bleeding that shit into this thread! We're talking about bartending here damnit.

Leadsalad · May 6, 2015

Or just put all of that 1% money you make into paying your loans off?

Khane · May 6, 2015

Leadsalad_sl said:
Or just put all of that 1% money you make into paying your loans off?

ASAP means "As Soon As Possible".

I am paying off all my loans, but without taking a second job it's going to take about 6 years to pay off my mortgage, I want it done sooner than that. You guys seem butthurt that I want to take on secondary work to accelerate my plans.

Cad · May 6, 2015

Khane_sl said:
ASAP means "As Soon As Possible".

I am paying off all my loans, but without taking a second job it's going to take about 6 years to pay off my mortgage, I want it done sooner than that. You guys seem butthurt that I want to take on secondary work to accelerate my plans.

Take on secondary work in your primary field? Just an additional engagement. Don't go looking for ex-con work.

Khane · May 6, 2015

Cad_sl said:
Take on secondary work in your primary field? Just an additional engagement. Don't go looking for ex-con work.

Well the reason I don't want to do software development on the side is because I'm getting burned out by it. Part time software development/consultation is an annoying proposition. Generally the people who need it have no idea what they want and expect miracles for pennies on the dollar because they have no budget either. I've tried it a few times and each time the project turned into an absolute nightmare. Scope creep is absurd when dealing with these types of contracts.

I just think bartending would be fun for a year or two.

hodj · May 6, 2015

This might sound nutty, but if you have a vehicle capable of pulling a short trailer, and a riding lawn mower, you could consider mowing yards for old people. At ~20 bucks a yard, if you can clear 50 yards in the evenings and on weekends, you're looking at a cool 1000 bucks extra a week untaxed minus gas.

If you can mow a regular sized yard in ~30 mins, that's 6 yards a night X 5 nights = 30 yards. Now do 20 more on Saturday/Sunday.

Of course there's leg work and marketing and shit involved, you may not get to that ideal your first summer, but I see a shit load of people doing that for extra cash and it seems to work out well. We're talking people with college degrees usually with good jobs.

Cad · May 6, 2015

hodj_sl said:
This might sound nutty, but if you have a vehicle capable of pulling a short trailer, and a riding lawn mower, you could consider mowing yards for old people. At ~20 bucks a yard, if you can clear 50 yards in the evenings and on weekends, you're looking at a cool 1000 bucks extra a week untaxed minus gas.

If you can mow a regular sized yard in ~30 mins, that's 6 yards a night X 5 nights = 30 yards. Now do 20 more on Saturday/Sunday.

Of course there's leg work and marketing and shit involved, you may not get to that ideal your first summer, but I see a shit load of people doing that for extra cash and it seems to work out well. We're talking people with college degrees usually with good jobs.

Having done this work in my teen years with my cousin as a business, you spend more time driving around between yards and loading/unloading than you do mowing. Not to mention talking to/trying to get clients. Depending on where he lives the hispanics have probably driven the price so low its not worth doing anymore.

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