Thanks. I'm not saying any other opinion is invalid, I was trying to respond to a specific statement. I'm not trying to invalidate someone who doesn't have kids, nor am I saying my opinion is the only one that is valid. I'm saying it's impossible to explain the joy/pain of kids without having them, so to project otherwise is folly.
Yeah. Confusing. "Don't kill babies, but don't support them once they're breathing air on their own."
No fucking shit. It is impossible to explain anything completely without experiencing it. this is why terms like "book smarts" and " street smarts" exist and other variations of the theme. Implying the difference between knowledge and experience. I don't know if you're 18 and just figured this out or you seriously love the smell of your own shit. I said this in my first reply to your dumb fuck statement and you didn't seem to grasp it since you restated your point without adding anything except trying to take some kind of high ground because you are in fact a dumb cunt. Any more allusions to be something more is just that.lurkingdirk_sl said:
Being alone or having kids are not the only options. You can be with someone else and still not have kids.
*fully* paid 10 weeks (4 before estimated dob, 6 after) is mandatory by law for the mother here. I don't even know how a woman can work a week before or after that, they're completely out of it, not even starting with the needs of the baby - well, that is what formula was invented for, I guess
it is the pro life vs pro birth dilemma, and they actually are just the latter.
I didn't say it was the only option. It was for me because my wife had a son from a previous marriage. Clearly YMMV, but for me I'm a family man
The newborn months are overrated. Shit, sleep, eat.
before going to work I just spent 30 minutes with her, shaking toys and stuff, holding them for her to grab on then she dozes off already. Also got the new Thule model (chinook I), so I've been doing a lot of cycling with her sleeping behind me. Yay, I guess.
Oh usually mothers take off, they just don't get paid for it. My sister in law worked to the day she gave birth. The day before that she worked a 16 hour day too. Not sure how long she took afterwards.
You live in the Bible Belt, or around crazies? On the coasts, where people are able to think objectively and without fear of a made-up flying spaghetti monster sending them to a fiery afterlife, things are different.
