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Bald Brah

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I played it a bit tonight. Combat seems lame. Blow through 20-30 goblins at once just spamming the same attack. Health never drops. Never run out of power. Just button mashing.

Everything is pretty and you can fly through quests and dialog. I made a valkyrie and characters look amazing. Gameplay looks great and everything is fluid.

But man it's no elden ring. Combat is just a hollow imitation. There doesn't seem to be much skill involved or any risk or challenge. Just constant button mashing and tearing through wave after wave of impotent enemies. Worth a buck just for the jiggly character creation though. Man them Koreans know how to model knockers.
 
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JOESAN21

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I played it a bit tonight. Combat seems lame. Blow through 20-30 goblins at once just spamming the same attack. Health never drops. Never run out of power. Just button mashing.

Everything is pretty and you can fly through quests and dialog. I made a valkyrie and characters look amazing. Gameplay looks great and everything is fluid.

But man it's no elden ring. Combat is just a hollow imitation. There doesn't seem to be much skill involved or any risk or challenge. Just constant button mashing and tearing through wave after wave of impotent enemies. Worth a buck just for the jiggly character creation though. Man them Koreans know how to model knockers.
Unfortunately you’ve hit the nail on the head for new players. bDO didn’t used to be like this. When it stated you could get killed by the <unique> monsters and getting some sort of weapon and armor mattered. The game is huge and has a rich environment with a metric shit ton of quests in every city. You could spend the time to look at the city and do local quests while trying to level and upgrade. There are hundreds of unique quests that if you took your time you could get some cool rewards (the dragon lute for example)

Now it’s a race to 60 as fast as possible. You can do the whole first 50 level naked with a beginner sword and it doesn’t matter. It takes a huge amount of the game away, and really good play only stats at 60-61. However, once you get there, it is actually a lot of fun. The combat style is really reminiscent of vindictive, and having the right crystal set up and having. The right combos for your character will make all the difference. If you give us a chance and take your time, there’s a huge game that’s a lot of fun to play. And like I said combat itself completely changes after about level 55 to 60.
With Tuvaala/blackstar give away be at AP 290-300 quick. The take your time and do the blackstar questline and others. The fights are fun and you can get a lot out of them. At AP 250 go layteen hunting in the desert at night or hunt for Kreator. The fights will be fun and more of a challenge than at 300
 
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Bald Brah

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It seems like a really good game just not the niche I'm looking for. I might try monsters and memories next as it seems like the sort of exploration and combat focused game I like. Not rush rush rush grind grind grind.
 
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Grim1

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It seems like a really good game just not the niche I'm looking for. I might try monsters and memories next as it seems like the sort of exploration and combat focused game I like. Not rush rush rush grind grind grind.
It's a grind game. You either grind mobs or life skills. PvP use to be a thing, but you have to look for it now. It's not as P2W as it use to be, but if you are impatient to get the best gear then money will flow out of your wallet. If you are very patient then then most pearl items will eventually be given away free during some event or another. But there are some purchases that are almost mandatory that I've never seen given away (campsite, etc).

For me the combat is the best of all mmos. But to be honest most of my time played is afk while my computer trains horses or fishes.

BDO has an amazing amount of deep systems to learn and waste time in. And that keeps me occupied while I wait for the NEXT BIG THING. Which I will play for a few months before getting bored and going back to BDO.
 
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zombiewizardhawk

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Unfortunately you’ve hit the nail on the head for new players. bDO didn’t used to be like this. When it stated you could get killed by the <unique> monsters and getting some sort of weapon and armor mattered. The game is huge and has a rich environment with a metric shit ton of quests in every city. You could spend the time to look at the city and do local quests while trying to level and upgrade. There are hundreds of unique quests that if you took your time you could get some cool rewards (the dragon lute for example)

Now it’s a race to 60 as fast as possible. You can do the whole first 50 level naked with a beginner sword and it doesn’t matter. It takes a huge amount of the game away, and really good play only stats at 60-61. However, once you get there, it is actually a lot of fun. The combat style is really reminiscent of vindictive, and having the right crystal set up and having. The right combos for your character will make all the difference. If you give us a chance and take your time, there’s a huge game that’s a lot of fun to play. And like I said combat itself completely changes after about level 55 to 60.
With Tuvaala/blackstar give away be at AP 290-300 quick. The take your time and do the blackstar questline and others. The fights are fun and you can get a lot out of them. At AP 250 go layteen hunting in the desert at night or hunt for Kreator. The fights will be fun and more of a challenge than at 300
Nobody new would ever join an MMO if you had to spend 50-300+ hours grinding to get to a medium level in empty newbie zones when the game was old as hell. That's just the way it is for any MMO (at least any of the tons of them i've played). Then imagine how many alts people would (not) have if they had to spend 300+ hours slogging through level 1-56 to get some +15 armor and weapons and then another 300 hours to get to 60 and some pri-tri gear.
 

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Nobody new would ever join an MMO if you had to spend 50-300+ hours grinding to get to a medium level in empty newbie zones when the game was old as hell. That's just the way it is for any MMO (at least any of the tons of them i've played). Then imagine how many alts people would (not) have if they had to spend 300+ hours slogging through level 1-56 to get some +15 armor and weapons and then another 300 hours to get to 60 and some pri-tri gear.
This.

I’ve said it before, but BDO’s biggest failure with seasons is how poorly it sets players up once they’re dumped into the main game. The gear curve is brutal, and the GS you graduate with isn’t anywhere near enough to keep new players engaged. The new TRI Fallen God armor helps, but it’s still just a small patch on a much bigger issue. At this stage, seasons should be graduating players closer to 300 AP / 400 DP baseline. Anything less just shows how out of touch Pearl Abyss is with what keeps players sticking around after season ends.
 

JOESAN21

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Anyone done the painting thing yet? We are getting the paint as a free drop for the event, but I have not seen my character use any. Do you need to wait for a certain level before it becomes active?

Even with the crap drop rate it will be nice to go after treasure pieces at any 300AP zone and not have to go back to hysteria anymore
 

Kirun

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It's disabled until the next maintenance. Apparently the drop rate was massively fucked up and dropping stuff way too frequently.
 

Zindan

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You can still grind at the OG Treasure spots to get build up a stockpile of the Paints needed to use the Painting.
 
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