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Blizzard dies and Bobby rides
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I don't think that meme represents what happened to WoW. The developers became heroes overnight because they made a great game. They continued to iterate on it, but obviously enjoyed getting some ass too. Then they got tired of it and split off to other projects/ideas such as Tigole going to Overwatch, etc... Then most of them retired/left the company and all this frat boy shit came out after the game had already gone down hill substantially.
Morale of the story is only hire Asian and white men if you want to make and keep a great company....
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Cybsled
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LFR didn't ruin anything - basically was a way for super casuals to see content. Where they went wrong is they had way, way too many difficulty tiers
Skill trees in WoW were always an illusion of choice - unless you ran a couple specs, you were just gimping yourself
Spec swap button was fine - it let you adapt to the needs of your group
Dungeon queues were needed
Character boosts are lame outside of alts
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Penance
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Automated LFR/D just really kills community. Group finder is fine. Creating friends you want to play with is the whole point of MMOs and multiplayer games. If they really wanted the autists and Jennies to see content they could've made a solo mode with bots.
Agree on the tiers though for sure.
Spec swapping is a must. Any MMO worth a shit needs replayability not just in the linear content it creates but the cyclical and playing alts and different specs helps a ton with that.
Agree on the tiers though for sure.
Spec swapping is a must. Any MMO worth a shit needs replayability not just in the linear content it creates but the cyclical and playing alts and different specs helps a ton with that.
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Cybsled
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You needed cross server group matching because a) too many servers b) too much server imbalance. They didnt want to merge servers overtly.
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It's definitely the 'unpopular kid in high school becomes a rock star' thing. Problem is, adults who
It's still crazy to me though that if you're an actual rock star, you can marry your underage cousin, have people found dead in your hotel room, bender on all kinds of drugs and even literally beat your girlfriend (another rock star) into pulp on camera and it has little impact on your career. Meanwhile, in game dev, you get caught with a little milk on your lip...
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Chanur
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I dont get paid for OT. I am ready to work 24 hours if its needed. The trade off is my salary is good and work almost never asks me for OT.
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Siddar
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This failed at very start, by not knowing that accept for plane of time there was no instances in game when Tigole played.
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YEah I dont get paid OT either, just salary. Last x-mas when I was working heavy on the electric truck for Lordstown Motors I was putting in 12-16 hrs a day working from home for months. Its how auto industry works and has worked for ever. Stretches where you work your ass off then stretches when you have shit all to do.
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Dalien
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Fuckin' Clippy is going to be popping up in game reminding you to do your daily chores.
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Daidraco
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Eh, the game dev thing just gets into a whole capitalism politics topic that I just dont care to visit. But it basically revolves around either idiots, or desperate people being taken advantage of. The job you describe is pretty much just a company keeping you on retainer. Where a more hideous example, rather than a game dev, would be Subway paying an employee to run a store for minimum wage at 40 hours, stretched out over an 80-90 hour week. I feel like the end result is going to be some heavy handed approach from the government to fix it and its going to work well for those on the lowest rung, but utterly fuck those that are in the position you spoke of. You and I could sit here and hash out a fair system that puts no one at a disadvantage, but with all the lobbying and shit that happens in politics - you know they arent going to take the most straightforward route. Game Dev's unionizing is just them trying to take control of it before the government fucks it all up, imo.
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I work in M&A and BD for a large SAAS company similar to Microsoft and am just as eager to see this play out as everyone here.
These things, especially with a company as large as Microsoft will take years to fully develop. There are typical acquired company phases we should expect to see, both culturally and technically.
Transition > integration > extended value
The first phase will be a lot of turnover and managing people and process. We won’t see investment in any one area. “Keep the lights on and learn” will be a focus.
The second phase will be bringing Blizzard into Microsoft’s ecosystem and building out the longer term vision. This will include a lot of IT work to rebuild the house. We will hear about investment plans but shouldn’t expect to see any new games or major changes. Expect a bit blizzcon vision statement with rough timelines.
The third phase is when they’ll launch new capabilities unique to MSFT/Blizzard asthat they hope to create more value for us. Hopefully they’ve learned from the Diablo mobile backlash and understand their player base.
There are a lot of smart people at Microsoft, but smart people don’t always make great games. It will be interesting.
It’s smart of Microsoft. If Amazon took them off the table imagine what they could have done with Twitch + Activision + Prime.
These things, especially with a company as large as Microsoft will take years to fully develop. There are typical acquired company phases we should expect to see, both culturally and technically.
Transition > integration > extended value
The first phase will be a lot of turnover and managing people and process. We won’t see investment in any one area. “Keep the lights on and learn” will be a focus.
The second phase will be bringing Blizzard into Microsoft’s ecosystem and building out the longer term vision. This will include a lot of IT work to rebuild the house. We will hear about investment plans but shouldn’t expect to see any new games or major changes. Expect a bit blizzcon vision statement with rough timelines.
The third phase is when they’ll launch new capabilities unique to MSFT/Blizzard asthat they hope to create more value for us. Hopefully they’ve learned from the Diablo mobile backlash and understand their player base.
There are a lot of smart people at Microsoft, but smart people don’t always make great games. It will be interesting.
It’s smart of Microsoft. If Amazon took them off the table imagine what they could have done with Twitch + Activision + Prime.
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Slaanesh69
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They are to computer entertainment the same as Disney is to movies. They are totally going to Disney up WoW and whatever the future of Diablo was.
MS fucked up Minecraft. They are in the process of shifting accounts and launchers and me and many others still cannot log into Minecraft after switching launchers. Complete horseshit, they fucked it up so badly. I have to go through the fucking Xbox store to even find the launcher download for my PC. Say what the fuck? And I have spent hours trying to find a fix to no avail.
I am convinced they did it on purpose to get people to buy new accounts. There are also scads of people online who said they just gave up and did just that.
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Subway is evil? The employee can quit and find another job at any time; and anyone working in those conditions would do just that.
Anyone making over 30k at a white collar desk job needs to be required to work as a farmhand, garbage man, or yard maintenance for a week every year just to remind them how fucking lucky they are to do what they do.
People that think they need a union to stop companies from taking advantage of you need to grow a spine and develop an ounce of common sense.
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Borzak
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That would cut into my pay when I'm working. Lot of engineers (not computer science) will not even walk 30 feet from the office to talk to someone in the shop for 5 minutes, even though the shop is air conditioned. It's beneath them. See it all the time. One engineer literally laughed and said that's why he got an engineering degree so he didn't have to go to places like that and talk to the people in the shop. Jokes on him, I used to sign his check.
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