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Kajiimagi

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A lot of people use them as an alternative to a side by side UTV. $28k is actually cheap in that world. Side by sides with an enclosed cab hit $40k easily. That said, I thought the imported ones were more in the 10k range.
FYI the millenial Grand Tour team did an episode on Kei cars and apparently they are not legal in every state. They wanted to take them to pikes peak and had issues getting there. Clarkson would have told them to fuck off and or not driven one.
 

Kobayashi

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Mine is a 5.3 I think.
AFM/DOD is dogshit in the 5.3. I had collapsed lifters grenade my engine at just over 100k miles.

I'd look into one of the products that disables that crap (there are cheaper than what I linked, but I trust that company to put out quality) and eventually replacing cams/lifters to permanently disable it.

 

Kajiimagi

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AFM/DOD is dogshit in the 5.3. I had collapsed lifters grenade my engine at just over 100k miles.

I'd look into one of the products that disables that crap (there are cheaper than what I linked, but I trust that company to put out quality) and eventually replacing cams/lifters to permanently disable it.

I have a button that disables it, have to press it every damn time though. No more than I drive, I don't see 100K anytime in the next decade. I'm not even at 50K now.
 

Kobayashi

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I have a button that disables it, have to press it every damn time though. No more than I drive, I don't see 100K anytime in the next decade. I'm not even at 50K now.
Start/Stop is annoying, but cylinder deactivation is the reliability killer. I don't think there's a button to turn it off (except stuff like tow mode, but then I think you lose your overdrive gear).
 

Kajiimagi

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Start/Stop is annoying, but cylinder deactivation is the reliability killer. I don't think there's a button to turn it off (except stuff like tow mode, but then I think you lose your overdrive gear).
You read the part about not getting another one and not driving that much right? PS I don't tow stuff.
 

Kobayashi

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You read the part about not getting another one and not driving that much right? PS I don't tow stuff.
If you're not getting another one, all the more reason to do everything in your power to help prevent if from grenading itself. In my opinion, a cheap dongle that prevents the cylinder deactivation system from working is worth it - I wish I would have gotten one. I brought up tow mode because it's one way to turn off the system without a dongle.
 
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If you're not getting another one, all the more reason to do everything in your power to help prevent if from grenading itself. In my opinion, a cheap dongle that prevents the cylinder deactivation system from working is worth it - I wish I would have gotten one. I brought up tow mode because it's one way to turn off the system without a dongle.
I got one for V-6 Honda I have. MPG didn't go down at all.
 

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If you're not getting another one, all the more reason to do everything in your power to help prevent if from grenading itself. In my opinion, a cheap dongle that prevents the cylinder deactivation system from working is worth it - I wish I would have gotten one. I brought up tow mode because it's one way to turn off the system without a dongle.

My truck has cylinder deactivation. 19 years and no problems. Thing is it doesn't deactivate when you are going 65mph or more. Speed limit here is 75 and I rarely drive in town.
 
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Kajiimagi

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My truck has cylinder deactivation. 19 years and no problems. Thing is it doesn't deactivate when you are going 65mph or more. Speed limit here is 75 and I rarely drive in town.
yeah I had a Chrysler 300C and 4 of the cylinders would deactivate if you were not accelerating , I had zero issues with it. That start/stop shit is annoying and I am glad I have an override. My wife's car does not , it's annoying and it's already ate a battery and starter.
 

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The thing that's weird about the start/stop thing to me is that it shuts the engine off for 20 seconds at a stoplight but if you put it in park it will sit there and run forever.
 
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The thing that's weird about the start/stop thing to me is that it shuts the engine off for 20 seconds at a stoplight but if you put it in park it will sit there and run forever.
it's right up there with the seatbelts where the shoulder strap was on a rail because the gvmnt said you WILL wear a belt. So most people didn't put the lap belt on which is worse. I had a car where that belt was bolted in , then they added a clip, then eventually realized it was stupid. start/stop will be the same.
 

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Start stop: saves you 15$ over the life of your vehicle but kills your engine 500% faster due to oil starvation on hot engine parts. So trade 15 bucks in gas for a 10k engine repair. Brilliant!
 
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The thing that's weird about the start/stop thing to me is that it shuts the engine off for 20 seconds at a stoplight but if you put it in park it will sit there and run forever.
Look into how the charging system in an automobile works and you'll have your answer.
 

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There were a couple of reasons for that. First, I wanted actual experience working on the things I might eventually be designing. One of my biggest criticisms of modern automotive engineering is that the people designing these vehicles often have very little practical experience maintaining or repairing them. It's one thing to design something that works on paper; it's another to design something that a technician can reasonably diagnose, access, and repair without wanting to put their head through a fucking wall.
I worked at GM for 6 years. While I didn't work on cars or anything I was aware of the org structure.

Any engineering position you have in automotive design is extremely compartmentalized. The dudes who design the engine itself are not one team. The guys who design the software suites that run them absolutely do not talk to each other at all. There is no end to end discussion about it in the way your are phrasing it. Just something to keep in mind.
 
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I worked at GM for 6 years. While I didn't work on cars or anything I was aware of the org structure.

Any engineering position you have in automotive design is extremely compartmentalized. The dudes who design the engine itself are not one team. The guys who design the software suites that run them absolutely do not talk to each other at all. There is no end to end discussion about it in the way your are phrasing it. Just something to keep in mind.
Watched a video with former Ford engineer, and he said it was difficult to keep track of software because they used supplier software in their cars. Seat maker has its own software to interface that may/may not be made to spec. Multiply this across all components they outsource and the problem becomes pretty clear. Not only that, revisions in hardware don't always mesh with software versions.

Seems like a really insane way of doing things to me.
 
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Kajiimagi

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Watched a video with former Ford engineer, and he said it was difficult to keep track of software because they used supplier software in their cars. Seat maker has its own software to interface that may/may not be made to spec. Multiply this across all components they outsource and the problem becomes pretty clear. Not only that, revisions in hardware don't always mesh with software versions.

Seems like a really insane way of doing things to me.
Cars have always been weird. My mom had a 90's GM car - one of the 4 door sedans I don't recall the exact model but her starter died and I offered to replace it. Call around looking for one , I know the exact year/engine all that jazz. Every place I called said they had 3 different vendors at the factory for that part and I'd have to bring the old one in to make sure it was right. It's that , but with software now.
 

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Cars have always been weird. My mom had a 90's GM car - one of the 4 door sedans I don't recall the exact model but her starter died and I offered to replace it. Call around looking for one , I know the exact year/engine all that jazz. Every place I called said they had 3 different vendors at the factory for that part and I'd have to bring the old one in to make sure it was right. It's that , but with software now.
Wouldn't the three different vendors part have to fit the same spot in the car though? Shouldn't they be compatible? How can they have 3 different starters that aren't compatible but fit the same model of car?
 

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OE parts are always best, but aren't 100% necessary in every case (depends on the area of the car/truck, obviously) and you'll save a ton by using aftermarket.
 

Kobayashi

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Wouldn't the three different vendors part have to fit the same spot in the car though? Shouldn't they be compatible? How can they have 3 different starters that aren't compatible but fit the same model of car?
Could be a connector difference. Might be from a localization difference (if the car was built in a couple different plants and they had a locally sourced supplier - US/Mexico, for example). Could have also been a running change in the same model year due to a supplier parts shortage, cost savings, or part issue.