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If AI was as trustworthy and logically discrete as calculators, I imagine this conversation would be quite different.
 
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I took a philosophy course in college where the text book had a whole chapter dedicated to arguing over if a Star Trek transporter would really be "you" on the other end. Especially with episodes of STTNG showing how they now have two Rikers because a transporter beam got partially reflected.

On the topic of AI. Has anybody else started playing around with any Agentic AI? That seems to be the next really big thing. Current AI being like a really hyper lab/research assistant who likes to look things up and draw up papers explaining shit for you. Agentic AI is more like an AI based digital "robot" you task with doing actual things for you. I work in Cybersecurity and we're already working up the basics of how to approach securing such things on your network.
The transporter could also instantly cure any disease, fix any health issue like a broken leg or injury, and de-age you back to whatever age you wanted. As long as we're scanning and reassembling my molecules can we do some tendon repair, some fat shaving, give me a nice haircut and maybe clean out my coronary arteries?

There's also no reason it can't store the scans and if you die on an away mission, just resurrect you at the point you left, back on the pad.

The thing is a literal magic eraser that can do anything.
 
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The transporter could also instantly cure any disease, fix any health issue like a broken leg or injury, and de-age you back to whatever age you wanted. As long as we're scanning and reassembling my molecules can we do some tendon repair, some fat shaving, give me a nice haircut and maybe clean out my coronary arteries?

There's also no reason it can't store the scans and if you die on an away mission, just resurrect you at the point you left, back on the pad.

The thing is a literal magic eraser that can do anything.

At the cost of murdering you.
 

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If AI was as trustworthy and logically discrete as calculators, I imagine this conversation would be quite different.
didnt you hear claude just coded solo unsupervised for an hour and delivered an entire feature. yay AI /dick sucking motion
 
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In every industry throwing down with AI it will be the same outcome. Retards will attempt to punch above their weight class by leaning on AI to fill a knowledge and skill gap that is clearly beyond them. As they don't understand what it's doing but wish to use the output as if they did they will inevitably get caught here. The more important the task the more likely they get outed as the retards they are.
 

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You tell me, bro. You guys are the AI gods that know everything AI is/isn't capable of and how utterly superior you are to it. The "knowledge gaps" can only be filled by the brainiacs on FoH, I heard.
 

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The transporter could also instantly cure any disease, fix any health issue like a broken leg or injury, and de-age you back to whatever age you wanted. As long as we're scanning and reassembling my molecules can we do some tendon repair, some fat shaving, give me a nice haircut and maybe clean out my coronary arteries?

There's also no reason it can't store the scans and if you die on an away mission, just resurrect you at the point you left, back on the pad.

The thing is a literal magic eraser that can do anything.
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In every industry throwing down with AI it will be the same outcome. Retards will attempt to punch above their weight class by leaning on AI to fill a knowledge and skill gap that is clearly beyond them. As they don't understand what it's doing but wish to use the output as if they did they will inevitably get caught here. The more important the task the more likely they get outed as the retards they are.
The difference is that in business the suits will look and say

"We can use AI for almost nothing with a few extremely cheap caretakers and generate our code. But 10% of it will break and be crap and we'll have to redo it, or have a real coder fix it, OR we can pay 5-10x more for a real staff of real talented coders and only have 2% of crap break and need to be fixed. Is 8% better code with 5-10x the cost? Nope.. TALLY HO AI!"
The funnier part so far for me is seeing businesses who are realizing a few Agentic AI solutions can do 90% of what ALL of their middle managers were doing... Not a good day for random yahoo with random MBA from second tier university...
 
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You tell me, bro. You guys are the AI gods that know everything AI is/isn't capable of and how utterly superior you are to it. The "knowledge gaps" can only be filled by the brainiacs on FoH, I heard.
All of the IT retards on FOH are being forced to shoehorn AI into every conceivable thing and use it all day everyday. That is where our commentary is coming from.

Not your wild dumbass speculation.
 
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A chef would use AI to help create and refine a recipe with appropriate prompts and corrections governed by years of experience and knowledge of the profession. In several steps, with pedantic instruction to achieve exactly the desired output.

An enthusiast home cook who spends a lot of time investigating food related content would use AI in a similar way but with less pedantic instructions and less refinement of output

A working parent with minimal time would use AI to simply find a recipe they think their family will like from the internet. The use of AI in this capacity is a waste of money and resources from a company standpoint because the output would be the same as googling albeit with slightly less effort

A college student who has never had to cook before would ask AI to help them make dinner. They probably wouldn't even know to ask for a recipe. And they likely wouldn't have the kitchen tools necessary to cook whatever the AI gave them as a result

The college student scenario is what a large portion of the less experienced, off-shored workforce will use AI to do. This is not a difficult concept to understand for people who understand how knowledge, experience, and work ethic translate into functional expertise and that AI will only ever be as good as the person utilizing it unless or until it actually starts displaying human like intelligence.
 
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All of the IT retards on FOH are being forced to shoehorn AI into every conceivable thing and use it all day everyday. That is where our commentary is coming from.

Not your wild dumbass speculation.
Aren’t we both just speculating at this point in the game?

You’re essentially arguing that AI is going to reduce future generations to brain-dead morons who need to prompt a chatbot just to remember how to breathe.

Meanwhile, I’m arguing that we’ve seen this kind of “simplification” before - even with something as foundational as mathematics - and we still managed to build incredible things and make real progress afterward. A kid not knowing how to do a book report probably isn't the end of civilization. I'm not a better, more knowledgeable person because I did 2 book reports in school on Hatchet and James and the Giant Peach without the use of AI.
 

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A kid not knowing how to do a book report probably isn't the end of civilization. I'm not a better, more knowledgeable person because I did 2 book reports in school on Hatchet and James and the Giant Peach without the use of AI.
People keep making exactly this same argument as they outsource each piece of human cognitive ability to machines.

"I'm not a better person because I can remember phone numbers"
"I'm not a better person because I can navigate by road signs and maps"
"I'm not a better person because I can write a letter in standard English with correct punctuation"
And on, and on, and on it goes.

At some point down this decline, any reasonable person would agree that holy shit, no, you were definitely a better person when you had all those abilities.

But all along the way they just go "yeah this particular loss is no big deal"
 

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People keep making exactly this same argument as they outsource each piece of human cognitive ability to machines.

"I'm not a better person because I can remember phone numbers"
"I'm not a better person because I can navigate by road signs and maps"
"I'm not a better person because I can write a letter in standard English with correct punctuation"
And on, and on, and on it goes.

At some point down this decline, any reasonable person would agree that holy shit, no, you were definitely a better person when you had all those abilities.

But all along the way they just go "yeah this particular loss is no big deal"
Right. Technological progress should stop at exactly the point that people now becoming their parents/grandparents deem "enough!!!". Who decides what that point is?

I remember when my Dad bitched about CDs, or the Internet, or Video Games, etc. etc. Then eventually he started putting CDs into a CD player, using the Internet, occasionally playing Video Games...

You're getting old.
 

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Youre ignoring the point completely and just distracting with a trope about "old people always dislike change, get with the times old man"


and bitch I got old
 

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Aren’t we both just speculating at this point in the game?

You’re essentially arguing that AI is going to reduce future generations to brain-dead morons who need to prompt a chatbot just to remember how to breathe.
You are the one making shit up here. I have to use AI all day and I am tasked with finding better ways to use AI... literally all day. Along with the rest of my entire company. Management has the expectation that AI will reduce the completion time of tasks by like 30% or more. AI cannot function as a plug and play knowledge base to any cog. But that is what it is being marketed as.

I'm not a better, more knowledgeable person because I did 2 book reports in school on Hatchet and James and the Giant Peach without the use of AI.
This is objectively false. Reading Hatchet and James and the Giant Peach did what? Oh you practiced reading. Doing those two stupid reports added to your collective ability and reading comprehension. Telling AI to write you two book reports on those books and waiting for it to spit out some files you download added nothing to your ability to read.

There is a reason why the educators of today find the current student body functionally illterate. Because they were doing exactly what you describe. They offloaded their practice of reading comprehension to AI.
 
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This is objectively false. Reading Hatchet and James and the Giant Peach did what? Oh you practiced reading. Doing those two stupid reports added to your collective ability and reading comprehension. Telling AI to write you two book reports on those books and waiting for it to spit out some files you download added nothing to your ability to read.
Actually, I didn't. I fucking hated reading as a kid and still do. I'd rather listen to an audiobook or watch a video 1000x over. I skimmed chapters on Hatchet and managed to squeak out a C. My Mom read James and the Giant Peach when she was younger and summarized it for me. I managed a B- on that one.

And despite fucking loathing reading, I always scored really high on comprehension tests in school. I know this might come as a shock, but a "one size fits all" approach to brain development and your personal experiences/methods aren't necessarily applicable in every situation/every person. Sure, some things are universal, but I think the kids will be alright, gramps.
There is a reason why the educators of today find the current student body functionally illterate.
Awkward. It must be all that AI work you're doing.
 

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Actually, I didn't. I fucking hated reading as a kid and still do. I'd rather listen to an audiobook or watch a video 1000x over. I skimmed chapters on Hatchet and managed to squeak out a C. My Mom read James and the Giant Peach when she was younger and summarized it for me. I managed a B- on that one.

And despite fucking loathing reading, I always scored really high on comprehension tests in school. I know this might come as a shock, but a "one size fits all" approach to brain development and your personal experiences/methods aren't necessarily applicable in every situation/every person. Sure, some things are universal, but I think the kids will be alright, gramps.
Lol.

Look retard. If you want to argue that reading books does nothing for your reading comprehension I will not waste time on such a discussion.
 
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Lol.

Look retard. If you want to argue that reading books does nothing for your reading comprehension I will not waste time on such a discussion.
You're veering off-topic now. I never said, "Don't read! You'll be fine, kid!". I'm simply arguing the impact you think this is going to have on upcoming generations, because you're yet another one of the posters here who is turning into a Boomer and hates seeing change in the world.

This was about how AI is going to completely ruin kids' reading comprehension, because they're just going to prompt AI now for book reports. As if Cliff Notes didn't have an entire section dedicated to it at the local Borders/mall when you were a kid.