Civilization VI
- Thread starter Teron D'Amun
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Civ5 release was horrible, it would crash on most pcs after 200 turns, it took months to fix all the bugs and crashes.
Why not wait until the day the game comes out then buy it? Pre-ordering games is the main reason we get shit games at release. They get paid up front, then give us half of what is promised. If noone preordeered a game they would make damn sure the game was perfect on launch day and not tear it apart and give us half later in dlc.
Haka
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I don't think the lack of pre-orders will suddenly cause the developers to invest more $$ into the game. Yes the vanilla Civ5 was bad, but pretty much everything else strictly Civ has been pretty good in my opinion (I never played BE, I heard it wasn't all that great). And the guy who did the expansions in Civ5 which made that game really good did this game from start to finish, so that's worth something to me.
I'm not preodering it months ahead, I'll wait a bit closer to release, but it's pretty likely I'm going to be buying this game and all the DLC either way. I may as well get a deal on it doing the preorder deluxe edition.
Quineloe
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Who is he and what role did he play in Beyond earth?
I'm sure if everyone who was genuinely unhappy about Civ 5: Nothing would not touch Civ 6 for a year, a message will be received.
As it is, you have idiots like me who bought BE within a week of release despite knowing better because I wanted to MP with a few friends. That resulted in a 10 hour saturday game where we didn't even reach turn 200.
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It wouldn't have to be sudden though.
Civ really lost me on their last one. Didn't even get any of the xpacs.
I am shocked at people bashing Civ5. It sucked at release but the expansions made it one of the best of the franchise. If you are bashing it and haven't played the expansion content as part of the game, I highly suggest next steam sale shelling out the 3 dollars for all the expansions.
radditsu
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I have spent a ton of time on CIV 5 post BNW and I find it the perfect inbetweenthingsiwanttoplay game. I have spent thousands of hours into it. I am optimistic this game is going to be fine. I wish it did not look like clash of clans. But if it makes it run really fast and streamlines the time between "next turns" I can't complain. I didnt play for the graphics. I MUCH prefered tiles and one unit per turn compared to stacks of doom. However I think a better way to do it would have a single artillery/infantry unit per tile. and i still love picking up a random civ mod and playing through with it. I liked the Polk America one especially.
Tearofsoul
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I am sure Civilization VI: The Complete Edition would be a great game, you just have to wait a bit first while continue to play Civ IV & V...
radditsu
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Yeah, at least CIV V...in my mind.. Is infinitely playable...especially if you don't allow Shaka to be in the game.
Jait
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That's the whole thing isn't it?
I see a thread that says "Civ VI" and all that means is Civ V is finally done and ready to play.
radditsu
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The only problem I really have with Civ 5 is the fact that Wide Play is non-existent in the upper levels of play, Playing on Diety its almost impossible to beat the game with more than 3-4 cities, unless you just war and take away neighbors cities. Which turns the game into a slog. Compared to previous games where you can grow a civ of TONS of cities is a real change. They never could get the balance right on that fact. You CAN win wide, but its not nearly as efficient.
Fight
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I think Civ4 + expansions was the better game to Civ5 + expansions. Both vanilla versions of the game were pretty shallow and bad.
The problem I have with Civ5 is that every game plays out the same way. It doesn't matter the leader you take, or the victory condition you go into the game seeking. The AI stupidity leads you down the same path each time. Around turn 150, you are forced down the path of least resistance and you realize "oh, this is turning out the exact same way the last 5 games did..."
Superior gold and economics --> Superior relationships and bonuses from City States --> Superior military and expansion --> gg
The problem I have with Civ5 is that every game plays out the same way. It doesn't matter the leader you take, or the victory condition you go into the game seeking. The AI stupidity leads you down the same path each time. Around turn 150, you are forced down the path of least resistance and you realize "oh, this is turning out the exact same way the last 5 games did..."
Superior gold and economics --> Superior relationships and bonuses from City States --> Superior military and expansion --> gg
Kuro
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Not a huge fan of Civ5's city states. Makes the game feel much easier.
I'd be more of a fan if they did the crazy shit they rarely do (go on a conquest path) more frequently. As they normally are, they're just loot pinatas where you can brute force whatever resource you're missing using gold.
I'd be more of a fan if they did the crazy shit they rarely do (go on a conquest path) more frequently. As they normally are, they're just loot pinatas where you can brute force whatever resource you're missing using gold.
Haka
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If you didn't get any xpacs I can understand why you didn't like Civ 5. Civ 5 at release was a joke, and there's a reason that developer was replaced. A lot of the complaints about a lack of variety in the upper levels of difficulty are a result of the things he put in place with the base game. The expansions did make it into an enjoyable experience for me though, especially BNW.
BE seemed like a Civ 5 reskinning, it didn't look or feel like Alpha Centauri which I loved so I never bothered.
That being said, those that will wait for all the expansions for Civ6, are you saying that solely based on your experience from Civ5 or did you find the base games of Civ 4 and 3 to be lacking? I found them to be solid games even without their expansions.
If they've lost your trust based on the one experience of Civ5 that's your choice to make, just wondering if there is more of a pattern there. If not, I could give a personally beloved franchise a bit of a pass on one misstep.
Utnayan
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I cannot speak for anyone else, but I am guessing it's Civ 5 original launch combined with Beyond Earth being just as (More) shitty than Civ 5. So really that's two games on the Sid Meier label.