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Neranja

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Denamian said:
Until that one time it actually is. Just spent a week working on a PC I built for a friend a few years ago. It would run fine after booting cold, but as soon as you told it to restart or boot it warm, it would just hang on a black screen with the GPU error light on the mobo lighting up.
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That's true. But if it's a problem that happens with temperature and/or pressure, it is most likely a bad trace somewhere, and then it's a wild guess which component is responsible.

Happened to me once before with a PSU that exploded. This was the time of cheap capacitors, and the whole room smelt like some chemical plant. It not only fried the hard drive, motherboard, and CPU, the now fried board also went on to kill the replacement CPU I put in to check which components still worked.
 
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Tuco

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Got my new ram sticks, tested them independently with MemTest86, passed. Tested them together, passed.

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It's interesting that I had two sticks that worked perfectly for ~7 months and then had issues kinda suddenly. I'm worried that they were damaged from overheating? It's also noteworthy that they survived Space Marine 2 which was very intense, but died when I was playing a shitty mobile game in Bluestacks.

My case is a basic case on its side on a shelf above my monitors. The case is open and there is a ridiculous CPU heatsink with a fan that kinda hovers over it. I'm going to get something to monitor RAM temps I guess.
 
Noodleface

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HWInfo gives you RAM temps but I'd be really surprised if RAM got anywhere near overheating. Even so, there are two signals employed by the chipset - PROCHOT and MEMHOT. They kind of indicate what they do, but when the temps hit a certain level they throttle the processor/memory to the lowest possible frequency and if the temp goes even higher the board should reset.

There are also thermal events that would most likely be reported in Windows event viewer.
 
Daidraco

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Tuco said:
Got my new ram sticks, tested them independently with MemTest86, passed. Tested them together, passed.

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It's interesting that I had two sticks that worked perfectly for ~7 months and then had issues kinda suddenly. I'm worried that they were damaged from overheating? It's also noteworthy that they survived Space Marine 2 which was very intense, but died when I was playing a shitty mobile game in Bluestacks.

My case is a basic case on its side on a shelf above my monitors. The case is open and there is a ridiculous CPU heatsink with a fan that kinda hovers over it. I'm going to get something to monitor RAM temps I guess.
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I had a set of memory sticks that worked for months until they just didnt. I couldnt even get the PC to boot anymore so I didnt know it was the memory. I thought it was the 13900 intel that I had in it, tbh. But I had nothing to test anything with, so I took it to a repair shop. After the diagnosis, he showed me how the sticks were warped all to shit. I bought the same sticks from Amazon again while the others were being RMA'd, anticipating that it would take weeks to get them back and just figured I'd double my memory. When I opened up the second set of memory, it dawned on me - these fucking clowns at Amazon are sending out memory sticks in a plastic Amazon bubble wrap bag as "protection." I didnt even open the plastic case and just sent them back and went in person to get some from a local computer shop.

It's just crazy to me that the memory sticks can work for months on end like that, until one day they just give up on life.
 
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Daidraco said:
I had a set of memory sticks that worked for months until they just didnt. I couldnt even get the PC to boot anymore so I didnt know it was the memory. I thought it was the 13900 intel that I had in it, tbh. But I had nothing to test anything with, so I took it to a repair shop. After the diagnosis, he showed me how the sticks were warped all to shit. I bought the same sticks from Amazon again while the others were being RMA'd, anticipating that it would take weeks to get them back and just figured I'd double my memory. When I opened up the second set of memory, it dawned on me - these fucking clowns at Amazon are sending out memory sticks in a plastic Amazon bubble wrap bag as "protection." I didnt even open the plastic case and just sent them back and went in person to get some from a local computer shop.

It's just crazy to me that the memory sticks can work for months on end like that, until one day they just give up on life.
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That's really just how memory works even in the server world. Once they take an uncorrectable error we just recommend replacement.
 
Rangoth

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Hey all, my video card just seemed to stop working, no signal to monitor no matter if I use HDMI or Display port cable, monitor tested with other stuff and seems to work fine. the video card fans run but just flat out zero signal. I don’t update my computer much as I now play 90% on the Nvidia shield thing but my motherboard(custom computer from years ago) has no display port(lol) so I think I need a new video card.

i tried:
  • Hdmi cables(new)
  • display port cables(new)
  • ‘all 3 ports on the video card
  • swPping card to different PCI slot

still nothing. Now I did live on the beach for about 3 years and so every electronic I own took some major rust/moisture/salt damage, even shit like kitchen appliances took a beating. If you look at the video card ports they all look like they came from deep ocean.

so I looked up the card I have and it is: MSI VENTUS GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8GB GDDR6

however I was shocked to find this card is still 600 fucking bucks on amazon, I look and found my receipt from april of 2020. how is this 5 year old card still 600? Any recommendations on something sub 300? I just need to get by as like I said 90% of my gaming is on the shield. Just play a few old legacy games where anything works, things not supported by shield(rare) and ffxiv.

or should I attempt to find a repair shop

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after seeing how expensive my rtx card is and not wanting to waste money for something I barely use I did a bit more research. I have a DRAM light on my motherboard that’s red. And now nothing boots really. Power to all fans and things but nothing otherwise. Gonna try to buy ram(upgrade from 16 to 32 anyway) since new ram sticks are 50 bucks. and yes I did try reseating the ram in almost all slots. So cheaper option first with slight upgrade.
 
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Lanx

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Rangoth said:
Hey all, my video card just seemed to stop working, no signal to monitor no matter if I use HDMI or Display port cable, monitor tested with other stuff and seems to work fine. the video card fans run but just flat out zero signal. I don’t update my computer much as I now play 90% on the Nvidia shield thing but my motherboard(custom computer from years ago) has no display port(lol) so I think I need a new video card.

i tried:
  • Hdmi cables(new)
  • display port cables(new)
  • ‘all 3 ports on the video card
  • swPping card to different PCI slot

still nothing. Now I did live on the beach for about 3 years and so every electronic I own took some major rust/moisture/salt damage, even shit like kitchen appliances took a beating. If you look at the video card ports they all look like they came from deep ocean.

so I looked up the card I have and it is: MSI VENTUS GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8GB GDDR6

however I was shocked to find this card is still 600 fucking bucks on amazon, I look and found my receipt from april of 2020. how is this 5 year old card still 600? Any recommendations on something sub 300? I just need to get by as like I said 90% of my gaming is on the shield. Just play a few old legacy games where anything works, things not supported by shield(rare) and ffxiv.

or should I attempt to find a repair shop

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after seeing how expensive my rtx card is and not wanting to waste money for something I barely use I did a bit more research. I have a DRAM light on my motherboard that’s red. And now nothing boots really. Power to all fans and things but nothing otherwise. Gonna try to buy ram(upgrade from 16 to 32 anyway) since new ram sticks are 50 bucks. and yes I did try reseating the ram in almost all slots. So cheaper option first with slight upgrade.
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you don't have any other video card around to rule out video error, vs ram? you could still boot up w/ 1 ram stick
 
Rezz

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Don't arbitrarily rule out the motherboard either. Those things do die and when they are in the process if they aren't outright failed, will make it look like other parts are the problem.

If you don't have known working spares or testing equipment yourself, it may be worth it to take it to a repair shop (or if you just have a buddy with spare parts/etc) and get it looked at. Upgrading RAM may sound like a good step regardless of what's actually broken, but if it's something like the mboard there's a non-trivial chance it could ruin whatever new parts you are putting in.

Whenever I build a new rig, I try and hold onto whatever was working in the last one if the build reason wasn't some type of failure and it would work in the new rig as a backup/tester.

Also, there's basically zero reason to get the same card. You can get a newer iteration of the xx70 model for likely the same price or lower. Or if you don't just hate AMD because reasons, they have cards that are roughly equivalent to the 2070s at half the MSRP.
 
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