Crimson Desert

I finally got around to doing the faction quest with Excavator boss. I cleared the quarry of all 100%, straight BDO, killing massive amounts of mobs in single blows (I'm well farmed. Chinese WoW farmers would be proud of my Mining). I finished up the percentage by going around the whole place killing everything. Couldnt figure out what to do with the three locations needed, so I kept wandering until I had the epiphany to use the swords to highlight the area. When I found the super obvious buildings to destroy - I got rid of the picker building by exploding arrows. Then used exploding barrels to kill the other two buildings. I destroyed all three buildings, but still had a red objective excavator up. When I did the swords again, the red square was still on the building I used exploding arrows on (looks like an excavator - so I associated the two and thought it was a bug (the red box still being there was a visual bug though). Especially when I saw that the hanging torch was just floating in the middle of the air.) Spent the next hour sourcing barrels with a constant respawn of Bleeding Bandits filtering in - before I went back to my earliest save (three hours before it) from where I manually saved. Did all three again, and noticed that the objective was still lit ... and realized that it was talking about THE FUCKING BOSS. /face palm. Loaded in the autosave from the other, killed the boss and moved on about my day. The ONLY satisfaction I got out of that brain dead moment was that when you kill hundreds of enemies - you get artifacts. I6 artifacts are in my inventory if that says anything....

BUT - Im highly enjoying the game. Farm up enough shit and it just falls over after you upgrade all of your equipment. I was chunking the excavator boss for ~1/5 of his HP with a heavy hit combo after stunning him. SO IF YOU REALLY HATE THE CONTROLS - you can just do the basic move set of heavy attack / light attacks while holding your target button. I think the mystery behind every door is a huge driving force. The Goblins and the Bankers looking like Juice is just icing on the cake.

Daidraco said:

I finally got around to doing the faction quest with Excavator boss. I cleared the quarry of all 100%, straight BDO, killing massive amounts of mobs in single blows (I'm well farmed. Chinese WoW farmers would be proud of my Mining). I finished up the percentage by going around the whole place killing everything. Couldnt figure out what to do with the three locations needed, so I kept wandering until I had the epiphany to use the swords to highlight the area. When I found the super obvious buildings to destroy - I got rid of the picker building by exploding arrows. Then used exploding barrels to kill the other two buildings. I destroyed all three buildings, but still had a red objective excavator up. When I did the swords again, the red square was still on the building I used exploding arrows on (looks like an excavator - so I associated the two and thought it was a bug (the red box still being there was a visual bug though). Especially when I saw that the hanging torch was just floating in the middle of the air.) Spent the next hour sourcing barrels with a constant respawn of Bleeding Bandits filtering in - before I went back to my earliest save (three hours before it) from where I manually saved. Did all three again, and noticed that the objective was still lit ... and realized that it was talking about THE FUCKING BOSS. /face palm. Loaded in the autosave from the other, killed the boss and moved on about my day. The ONLY satisfaction I got out of that brain dead moment was that when you kill hundreds of enemies - you get artifacts. I6 artifacts are in my inventory if that says anything....

BUT - Im highly enjoying the game. Farm up enough shit and it just falls over after you upgrade all of your equipment. I was chunking the excavator boss for ~1/5 of his HP with a heavy hit combo after stunning him. SO IF YOU REALLY HATE THE CONTROLS - you can just do the basic move set of heavy attack / light attacks while holding your target button. I think the mystery behind every door is a huge driving force. The Goblins and the Bankers looking like Juice is just icing on the cake.

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Curious thing. While I was doing that, I happened upon a horse that had what appeared to be the Excavator strapped to its back, like a gold suit of armor with drills for hands. I wanted to try and kill that horse, so I chased it but there were too many mobs to get past. It ran through a big gate before I could kill it sadly. That gate was to the boss arena. Had no idea how to get in there at first, so I just climb over the wall to the side.

So I'm wondering if you can actually kill that horse, lol.

Man I'm really throwing myself into this world. I get off on deep lore in games that's probably what drew me toward TES3-5. I'm the nerd who just goes around reading books. Spent and hour catching up on my knowledge reads today.

Also does this game have a draw distance? WTF black magic is Korea doing to get game engines like this.

Hopefully it will make it better.. I tried controller and K/B mouse and controller is the lesser of the two evils for me. At least give various controller set up options or allow button remapping.

Penance said:

Man I'm really throwing myself into this world. I get off on deep lore in games that's probably what drew me toward TES3-5. I'm the nerd who just goes around reading books. Spent and hour catching up on my knowledge reads today.

Also does this game have a draw distance? WTF black magic is Korea doing to get game engines like this.

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Sadly, no draw distance slider.

interesting anonymous BTS stuff on this game on reddit



who knows if its true/fake but if true (and kinda seems to be) its fascinating how a dumpster fire behind the scenes can still produce a pretty decent game that seems pretty well liked by a lot of people. wonder if its cuz the devs are all asian and their version of woke-shittiness would be "the game isn't perfect" vs ours "we need more fat black lesbians"

spronk said:

interesting anonymous BTS stuff on this game on reddit



who knows if its true/fake but if true (and kinda seems to be) its fascinating how a dumpster fire behind the scenes can still produce a pretty decent game that seems pretty well liked by a lot of people. wonder if its cuz the devs are all asian and their version of woke-shittiness would be "the game isn't perfect" vs ours "we need more fat black lesbians"

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lol sounds like a westerner in an Asian org. This is considered drama in a game? Give me a break.

I will say, there does seem to be a concentrated effort to discredit this game. I'm not sure why but the "controversy" around this game feels so manufactured.

spronk said:

interesting anonymous BTS stuff on this game on reddit



who knows if its true/fake but if true (and kinda seems to be) its fascinating how a dumpster fire behind the scenes can still produce a pretty decent game that seems pretty well liked by a lot of people. wonder if its cuz the devs are all asian and their version of woke-shittiness would be "the game isn't perfect" vs ours "we need more fat black lesbians"

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The person posting that rant supposedly now works for Nexon. Sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee to me.

Cybsled said:

They just announced on their website they plan to add a patch to address some control issues

edit: link to page [Notices] A Message to Our Players | Crimson Desert

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Just seems weird that no one tested the game on mouse/kb and wasn't immediately appalled at what they'd done. Something so simple should've never made it to release.

Gravel said:

Just seems weird that no one tested the game on mouse/kb and wasn't immediately appalled at what they'd done. Something so simple should've never made it to release.

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This to me says the team was off in their own little world. Which aligns with the comments that the game is a hodge podge of different ideas and systems.

The Tears of the Kingdom comment then some director snorting a line of whatever Korean Yakuza Coke then saying “get me sky islands” sounds about right.

Kajiimagi said:

If I'm reading your reply correctly, you are pausing this developers MMO to play this game correct? If that is the case, does the MMO have the same janky controls?

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Let me try to explain this... BDOs combat controls are not linked in any way to menu controls, this is probably the biggest issue with KBM controls in CD. If you rebind Q in CD the game REQUIRES you to rebind "move left in menu" to a key that isn't Q. There's 4 interact keys in CD, there's only one interact key in BDO, which is ODD for games because in BDO, interact (loot, mount/dismount, talk, progress convo is bound to R.

In BDO, holding your S key to move backwards moves your character backwards and doesn't turn the camera. Holding S and pressing another key in combat will perform an attack. Combinations of keys are how the combat plays out in BDO. So, the game plays like... W+F = leap into combat and do attack. Lshift+RMB to do ground based attack, Shift+F to perform another attack, S+RMB to do another attack. S+F to dodge backwards and perform another attack. C to dash in the direction you're facing and follow up with W+LMB to do another attack. Other keys like Shift+Q, Shift+E, E, Q, Shift+C all have attacks tied to them. Even pressing SPACE during/after another attack can/will trigger another ability as a possible attack. I won't talk about "flows" which act like combo bridges or special classes that combo more/less effectively than others.

All classes in BDO use the same schema for KBM, with vastly different abilities. The real genius in my opinion is that when they design a class that has similiar functions like "Block" for example, it's always on the same key combination. Which is Q. So on a warrior with a shield/sword, Q is block stance (Awakened Warrior with a 2 Hander is also Q-Block), and on a Dark Knight with a 2-Handed Sword, Q is block stance.

Kajiimagi said:

I'll be playing on a PC but I prefer to use my Xbox Elite 2 controller, and if the controls are as janky as people seem to complain about I'd want to remap.

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A friend I have playing both BDO and CD on PS5 is complaining about hitting the wrong button at the wrong time because it's not the same on controller, like putting Block on the Jump button or something like that. I have ZERO experience with controllers. I mean it, I played Elden Ring with a KBM after a 30 minute wrestle with the keybinds... but the current major complaint with controller is you cannot currently remap anything. This NEEDS to be fixed for the console/controller boys. (insert rage rant about removing controllers from FPS lobbies and/or removing aim assist all together).

Kajiimagi said:

If the MMO is as janky, why do it twice , if not wtf was the reason for the new Jank ass controls?

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In short, the MMO has no issues (no idea about controller) it's all mappable anyway, but most people and myself don't fuck with the combat controls, just menu controls.

I hope this explains it clearly from at least my point of view and helps you in some way.

spronk said:

interesting anonymous BTS stuff on this game on reddit



who knows if its true/fake but if true (and kinda seems to be) its fascinating how a dumpster fire behind the scenes can still produce a pretty decent game that seems pretty well liked by a lot of people. wonder if its cuz the devs are all asian and their version of woke-shittiness would be "the game isn't perfect" vs ours "we need more fat black lesbians"

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Arc raiders devs had recently put a thing out about their very messy production, almost scrapping the pve or pvp totally, forget which.

Sludig said:

Arc raiders devs had recently put a thing out about their very messy production, almost scrapping the pve or pvp totally, forget which.

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Originally the game was going to be PVE only, then they pivoted to make it PVPVE extraction.