Dave Chappelle

chaos said:

Yeah, not exactly Alabama. But the govt was split between Republicans and dems at the time, it required a 2/3rds vote by a body controlled by dems and a signature of a Republican governor. And the NRA not only didnt work against it, they are given credit for it passing. The point being, when you hear guys like Chappelle and Killer Miker talking about this, it actually happened, not that long ago, and all the groups that should have been lined up to protect those constitutional rights were the very ones who enacted the bill. It isnt just theorycrafting.

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Yeah, but it happened a generation ago. I don't think the KKK vote is nearly so influential as all that. Sure it exists and it exists primarily in the republican party. But this is literally not your fathers republican party anymore.

I don't think an uptick in black gun ownership is going to go that way. What you would see, and what chapelle is dead right about, is all of a sudden we'd get real serious about criminal background checks. And that would immediately translate into a fight about overzealous judicial action. Shit like non violent felonies being applied to blacks more than whites. It would kick up some shit, he's right. But not the kind of shit he's saying. Which is fine, it was a 5 minute bit about a much more lengthy and involved conflict. For a 5 minute synopsis it's not bad though.

Black rednecks like guns just as much as white ones, and they've got more immediate reasons to like 'em.

Haus said:

I'll chime in here as a life long Texan. I have never given a crap about if black people owned guns, and I actually supported Joe Biden's one time assertion that we should give a shotgun to every home owner for home defense. (Although I would be pump action and he was more supporting double barrel, but still...)

And he was off on the "shell rotation", at least from my family's tradition. It was salt shot (my grandfather loaded his own shells), then bird shot, then .00 buck shot the rest of the way.

The wife and I both really enjoyed this special, so you can take that as you may.

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A bit of a tangent here, but wouldn't salt, and even bird shot lead to possible trouble in court?

Numerous sources I have seen, including my CC instructor, advocate unloading on any threat. You should not be firing on anyone not seen as an imminent threat to your safety (& property, in Texas). If they are a threat, the best legal recourse is to neutralize them, as quick as possible. Firing salt (and maybe bird shot) goes against this doctrine, and you will need to explain why they weren't enough of a threat to warrant lethal force from the first shot. If they live, this may also be grounds for a civil suit?

iannis said:

Yeah, but it happened a generation ago. I don't think the KKK vote is nearly so influential as all that. Sure it exists and it exists primarily in the republican party. But this is literally not your fathers republican party anymore.

I don't think an uptick in black gun ownership is going to go that way. What you would see, and what chapelle is dead right about, is all of a sudden we'd get real serious about criminal background checks. And that would immediately translate into a fight about overzealous judicial action. Shit like non violent felonies being applied to blacks more than whites. It would kick up some shit, he's right. But not the kind of shit he's saying. Which is fine, it was a 5 minute bit about a much more lengthy and involved conflict. For a 5 minute synopsis it's not bad though.

Black rednecks like guns just as much as white ones, and they've got more immediate reasons to like 'em.

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Well, I'm no fan of Reagan, but I certainly wouldn't call him a Klansman. That was a relatively mainstream view at the time, and there are parallels between guys like Huey Newton and Killer Mike talking about how black people should carry guns due to risk from police. Today, I hope it wouldn't be an issue, but I get surprised all the time by what is controversial. Mostly just an interesting thing to think about. It goes back to people trying to divine Chappelle's views from his comedy. It isn't meant to be a manifesto, it's just some shit to think about presented via funny jokes and stories. Some of it intentionally absurd, some not so much.

OU Ariakas said:

You should probably stick to streaming Apex since your racial opinions are fucking garbage.

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There's a reason I don't go in General. It's whatever the opposite of virtue signaling is. Red-pill Dogpiling? Neocon Ballpit? I'm not sure. I literally don't want to hear the opinions of 90% of this board because they are as dumb as they are bad in PUBG.

Xevy said:

There's a reason I don't go in General. It's whatever the opposite of virtue signaling is. Red-pill Dogpiling? Neocon Ballpit? I'm not sure. I literally don't want to hear the opinions of 90% of this board because they are as dumb as they are bad in PUBG.

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Translation: Cognitive dissonance makes me uncomfortable and I don't like feeling like a fucking moron. My bubble, which is carefully curated to only allow for people who agree with me in my shitty little stream, feels much better.

chaos said:

Yeah, not exactly Alabama. But the govt was split between Republicans and dems at the time, it required a 2/3rds vote by a body controlled by dems and a signature of a Republican governor. And the NRA not only didnt work against it, they are given credit for it passing. The point being, when you hear guys like Chappelle and Killer Miker talking about this, it actually happened, not that long ago, and all the groups that should have been lined up to protect those constitutional rights were the very ones who enacted the bill. It isnt just theorycrafting.

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Yeah, Alabama has many, many more black people per capita. As all of those "racist" southern states do. None of them ever passed a law like this. Weird eh?

Lithose said:

Yeah, Alabama has many, many more black people per capita. As all of those "racist" southern states do. None of them ever passed a law like this. Weird eh?

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Are you fucking for real with this?

Yeah... guess we could learn a thing or two from how historically tolerant and accepting Alabama has been of black people.

chaos said:

Are you fucking for real with this?

Yeah... guess we could learn a thing or two from how historically tolerant and accepting Alabama has been of black people.

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Or you could learn a thing or two about how mistakes and conflict lead people to be better and learn from them. Or a thing or two about how perception and propaganda can radically alter how you think about things or popular belief.

Guess where the most segregated schools in America are..The most segregated neighborhoods...the largest wealth inequality racially. It ain't anywhere in the South. After the civil rights act, by every metric we can measure the South has been more equal than most Liberal states, especially California and NY, where the stratification is some of the worst in the country.




(Note: Before the "great" migration, the number of blacks in the South was actually far, far higher, too--it wasn't until the 50's and 60's that a significant amount of black people moved to more Liberal northern states...When was that act passed to disarm black people? 1967? So strange! Almost like the moment California had black people, they immediately decided to oppress them). Racial conflict can only happen when you actually HAVE black people or racial minorities. All the problems you see in California? All happened with a tiny black population. The South has a far, far higher black population, which is why they were the flash point for a lot of civil rights action--its also why they had legal and institutional change on such a profound level.

Its why modern calls of racism are so obtuse. You're pointing at people that have been through the fire and come out better for it, from an ivory tower that waves the flag of diversity but keeps those negroes down to an "acceptable" level of visibility.

At the gym Fox News was on and they had a story on how this got 99% on Rotten Tomatoes from viewers. I bet they looooved that shit.

I personally don't care about offending anyone. I even laughed at that Dan Harmon baby rape sketch. I still laugh a little when I think about it.

The idea that 1967 wasn't a long ass time ago is also fucking laughable. Surprised that wikipedia article isn't chiseled onto a stone tablet.

Gavinmad said:

The idea that 1967 wasn't a long ass time ago is also fucking laughable. Surprised that wikipedia article isn't chiseled onto a stone tablet.

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in the black community, thats like 5 generations ago.

Lithose said:

Or you could learn a thing or two about how mistakes and conflict lead people to be better and learn from them. Or a thing or two about how perception and propaganda can radically alter how you think about things or popular belief.

Guess where the most segregated schools in America are..The most segregated neighborhoods...the largest wealth inequality racially. It ain't anywhere in the South. After the civil rights act, by every metric we can measure the South has been more equal than most Liberal states, especially California and NY, where the stratification is some of the worst in the country.

(Note: Before the "great" migration, the number of blacks in the South was actually far, far higher, too--it wasn't until the 50's and 60's that a significant amount of black people moved to more Liberal northern states...When was that act passed to disarm black people? 1967? So strange! Almost like the moment California had black people, they immediately decided to oppress them). Racial conflict can only happen when you actually HAVE black people or racial minorities. All the problems you see in California? All happened with a tiny black population. The South has a far, far higher black population, which is why they were the flash point for a lot of civil rights action--its also why they had legal and institutional change on such a profound level.

Its why modern calls of racism are so obtuse. You're pointing at people that have been through the fire and come out better for it, from an ivory tower that waves the flag of diversity but keeps those negroes down to an "acceptable" level of visibility.

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Says modern calls of racism are obtuse. Refers to a 50 year old law.

Lendarios said:

I'm not asking him to stop doing it. I'll just watch him less when he makes those jokes. What do you want me to tell you that I should enjoy something i didn't enjoy?


You can be a good comedian without going there.

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How about enjoy what's actually good and not what your overlords command?