Ambiturner
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He had been gone for a while before they cancelled EQ Next. No idea why you'd move the goal posts to something you're still wrong about
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Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs
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He had been gone for a while before they cancelled EQ Next. No idea why you'd move the goal posts to something you're still wrong about
hats
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Not that it really matters to anything to do with current EQ or the lawsuit but on the topic of EQN and Smedley leading its depressing failure:
I do remember seeing Smedley involved with promoting EQN and launching that landmark alpha or whatever you call it that ran like shit on my computer. Yeah he was gone when they canceled it, but guessing his leadership as President at SOE in the years when the idea was conceived and the initial decisions to invest heavily into landmark while leaving core mmorpg systems underdeveloped left the project in a fucked up place. So when they sold to Columbus Nova and Smedley left (I guess like 3 months later?) the project was already vulnerable due to most likely just being a bad idea and a confusing investment. Yeah it was experimental and that’s cool I guess. In the sea of WoW clones we ‘could’ commend him for trying, but it was a weird, almost cheap feeling, concept built on the idea the community would build the world and game for them, and that of course never had to chance to happen I think primarily because the tech sucked.
Also I tried to explain this whole THJ v EQ lawsuit to my wife who doesn’t play, did a little well poisoning against EQ and it’s ‘bad management of the ip’ and she still said sorry that sounds like THJ is stealing. She’s no lawyer but there’s a sane non-elf world dweller take for ya.
I do remember seeing Smedley involved with promoting EQN and launching that landmark alpha or whatever you call it that ran like shit on my computer. Yeah he was gone when they canceled it, but guessing his leadership as President at SOE in the years when the idea was conceived and the initial decisions to invest heavily into landmark while leaving core mmorpg systems underdeveloped left the project in a fucked up place. So when they sold to Columbus Nova and Smedley left (I guess like 3 months later?) the project was already vulnerable due to most likely just being a bad idea and a confusing investment. Yeah it was experimental and that’s cool I guess. In the sea of WoW clones we ‘could’ commend him for trying, but it was a weird, almost cheap feeling, concept built on the idea the community would build the world and game for them, and that of course never had to chance to happen I think primarily because the tech sucked.
Also I tried to explain this whole THJ v EQ lawsuit to my wife who doesn’t play, did a little well poisoning against EQ and it’s ‘bad management of the ip’ and she still said sorry that sounds like THJ is stealing. She’s no lawyer but there’s a sane non-elf world dweller take for ya.
You make money on EQ through RMT and your mad that THJ is basically an anti-RMT server.
That's crazy because even DBG doesn't allege that second part.
Explain the Daybreak lawsuit to us. Because i don't think most people here understand what Daybreak is claiming. Also guessing you didn't give her the Jury instructions
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hats
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Just ask AI to do it. it's not a complicated case. You can even make it summarize the case like a pirate, or in language a retarded adult would understand. No, I didn't share the 2 dozen links to jury instructions with my wife.
Here for you:
Old Man Potter
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EQ Next was his baby. He greenlit the project. He hired Ponytail, Butler, and the rest of the hacks. His legacy is a graveyard of game shutdowns. He's the cryptkeeper of the MMO genre. He should be working DoorDash and should be blacklisted from the industry.
Do you work at Daybreak or married to one of the EQ devs? Maybe you're Smed? Who knows. I'm starting to wonder given your constant simping and running interference for the ass clowns at Daybreak/Darkpaw.
Oh, and what am I "still wrong" about?
Jox
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Look at what kind of shit your god Brad McQuaid made after EQ. Vanguard lol, and scamtheon. There's your soul of EQ.
jayrebb
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To be fair he thought they had a long term investment commitment from Microsoft.
They cut the funding after 40 million abruptly without any warning. By the time SOE came into the picture it was an entirely different project with different people working on it.
That came with an entirely new game built at SOE that shared none of the original game.
So nobody really knows what Brad McQuaid could have done with Vanguard had Microsoft not backed out during pre-alpha.
Jox
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They backed out cause they were over budget and under delivered.
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imready2go
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"abruptly without any warning"? lol
Do you not know the story about how Brad & Co. created a fake UI and in-game encounter to fool Microsoft into thinking they were actually making progress in building a game? They literally tried to scam MS and got caught, and MS quickly dumped them.
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Tredge
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This is exactly what Bill Gates did to sell the original DOS OS. Except he didnt even own it at the time he sold it to IBM.
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Punko
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some people dumped a few thousand into this game, including me
no way they get away with the "not for profit" thing
they had a VIP support channel with on-demand support (which was great), and as a mediocre player with a pretty limited char, I got to beta test the new quarm
never asked for anything, but pretty sure they'd go a long way to accommodate their whales, i mean they actively approach people to make them feel special ..
no way they get away with the "not for profit" thing
they had a VIP support channel with on-demand support (which was great), and as a mediocre player with a pretty limited char, I got to beta test the new quarm
never asked for anything, but pretty sure they'd go a long way to accommodate their whales, i mean they actively approach people to make them feel special ..
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hory
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What determines if something is non-profit isn't about how much money is made, but how the money is spent. There are thousands of non-profit charities that pay employees or give rewards for donations.
You say it's not a complicated case but you're talking about Daybreak mismanagement of their IP as if it's relevant to the Copyright Claim when that part has nothing to do with the Copyright portion of the lawsuit. Daybreaks mismanagement part would be relevant to the Harm claim. So you don't understand the lawsuit.
Control
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Tredge
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Playerone thinks Daybreak invented EQ and that the players are the problem with the game.
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Ambiturner
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You realize non-profit and not for profit are different things, right? The way you've brought that up multiple times just shows it's another legal thing you're clueless on
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Wow I actually had no idea they were different thanks for mentioning that had to look up the difference.
Didn't expect to learn anything in the thread and I did. Neat.
Vanguard could have been amazing but it was shoved out early to compete with TBC.
Vanguard could have been the true successor to Everquest but they shoved it out and it was a bug ridden mess they then put it into maintenance mode for years pulled it out of maintenance mode when it had like no one playing did a few things and then were like. "Welp it's dead how could this happen better sunset it"
For those who don't believe it was shoved out to try and fight TBC. Vanguard was bound to fail because of SoE's shit management.
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