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Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs
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Juvarisx
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Thats not what that means. THJs lawyers are arguing that the court shouldn't be able to decide this and its up to an arbitrator to, probably because THJ's lawyers are reading the writing on the wall and know they are fucked.
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Kebabman
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u should go on the official forumns and see what people reguarly request ...
most of the posts are
no boxing
6 month / locked servers
no krono
what are devs meant to do? do the same thing every year? take a gamble kn what people suggest on the forums? magically know what your favouritr ruleset is?
oh and before u say "trust experienced players/guild leaders" thats how we got the most fucked classic - TSS loot buckets on mischief and i doubt that they will go down that avenue again especially as zaide pmuch asked for fangbreaker (hard mode server) for faceless flexing and then didnt even make a guild ....
the trust is likely now all but gone and they will just do dev centric ideas ... or worse a pvp server
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moonarchia
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Mrniceguy
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So in other words lawsuit is cancelled. Stay mad Daycucks.
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didn't the judge throw out the last addendum because it was too late? Now that the judge is already judging the case why would they read another addendum?
also lol Nirgon please tell me you used AI to make that video? that's not a real channel or real interview is it? it totally sounds like you wrote that script
also lol Nirgon please tell me you used AI to make that video? that's not a real channel or real interview is it? it totally sounds like you wrote that script
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Nirgon
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Hippos
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it's not an addendum, it's a response to the original complaint. the judge is deliberating the preliminary injunction to shut thj down right now, not the overall copyright+trademark infringement+other claims case (though it could almost be seen as the overall case depending on the judge's rational for accepting/denying the injunction).
basically what they've done is respond to the original complaint by admitting that, as individuals, they're bound by the EQ EULA that they accepted while playing the live version, so daybreak needs to give them the opportunity for negotiation/arbitration individually outside of the legal system as per its terms and stay the case until such opportunity has occurred. since this is obviously already an ongoing legal matter, the judge has to accept their motion- which they've proposed to be six weeks from now.
if she agrees and daybreak is compelled to go through the process though, then it'd potentially give THJ the opportunity to settle their breach penalties for considerably less than even the minimums outlined by the court for IP infringement (and save them a shitload of money on legal fees owed), as well as create an opportunity for a p99/quarm-like agreement (daybreak won't do this for THJ as we know it though, it'd be for a new server)- all while affording themselves the six extra weeks for the judge to rule on the injunction. the last part isn't insignificant because there's still a chance the judge could deny the injunction (as its claim was irreparable harm beyond $$$'s), and with the case stayed shortly after, that would give THJ leverage that might further compel daybreak to settle during negotiation.
settling out of court is just about the only way this thing doesn't end in emulators (THE SOUL) getting cooked, so godspeed retards. two months of claiming EULA's are fake/gay and unenforceable, into indirectly confirming (again) that they committed IP infringement and need a EULA to protect them at least makes for a good laugh.
Ambiturner
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Your ability to be fucking retarded and always wrong about everything is actually impressive
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Burns
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The success of THJ was that is appealed to a mass of people that have never visited the Daybreak forums and don't give a fuck what those specific autists/sadists want.
In other words, most people playing THJ are, at best, indifferent to Daybreak's internal problems and don't care about EQ beyond it's free to play and a fun ruleset for a limited amount of time. THJ was going to last, as most a couple of years, so when the large population playing it got bored and quit, or the server progression runs it's course, most people will just go back to not giving a fuck about EQ again.
Daybreak has zero chance at having anything close to the success of THJ with their current business model, even if they had the ability to clone THJ perfectly (which it sounds like they don't).
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in regards to? asking a question about the addendum?
or about nirgon's fanfic AI video?
been nothing but right about damn near everything i've ever posted (and when i am wrong I freely admit it) so not sure where your delulu is coming from? Who hurt you? was it me? lol
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DickTrickle
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The loot buckets that people loved on mischief, their immensely successful server? Okay, man.
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Kebabman
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people loved them yes. by GoD i believe the devs essentially gave up as some of the people that submitted gave honest and fair lists and some people gave lists with kr in mind and it ended up making some tiers incredibly stale.
but every other tier pretty much had an exploitable or repeatable tier 1/2 loot dropper because some people who were submitting lists need to feed their familys. For examples
HoT - The Well repeatable T2 (fixed within a week)
TBS - Solteris commander loot chests repeatable t1 (fixed at 6 weeks)
TSS - Hearol exploitable skip (never fixed, but most people ended up doing torches or DA runs instead)
Shyra - repeatable T1 - (fixed on day 1)
harbingers spire - never fixed
Arena fight texvu - fixed for teek
necro 1.5 PoN / fishes in powater - fixed first week
cursed - fixed on teek
Yelinak vs Dain - personally i view this version of summon tanking as exploiting, making a raid boss do less dps than naggy isnt how it was intended etc
Theres a few ive purposely left off as they will still be active for teek
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Kebabman
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THJ was the LFR/Story mode that EQ has needed for a long time ... removing motm would essentially be the same gameplay for 50% of the tlp community that thj gave
this is also a common request from the forums
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Having an LFR/Story mode server fenced behind a monthly subscription isn't going to attract many people that had no interest in the game beforehand.
Word of mouth on THJ traveled so well because it was easily sold with such a low barrier to entry. It doesn't matter is $10 - $15 is a small amount of money, it's a different psychological effect when any amount of money is involved when it's competing for time with a whole slew of entertainment options.
Moreover THJ was an easy family game, with the parents being able to play a nostalgia game that they played as kids/teens/young adults, with their own kids. That becomes a much harder sell when there is a money price tag adding up on every account.
That doesn't even get into the multi-class aspect of making characters FAR more enjoyable to play. Who the fuck wants to play a pure
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Ambiturner
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Yes, your question about an addendum that wasn't an addendum and shows you're so lost you don't even understand what you're asking. Par for the course
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Kebabman
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do u have any sources that THJ picked up new players? everyone i spoke to had played eq before and just wanted to play THJ because it respected your time investment (which is something dbg does not)
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Burns
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Played EQ under DBG or ever?
Numerous people (most or at least half?) in our THJ thread had not played EQ since DBG acquired it and some of which hadn't played in 20+ years, including myself. The THJ Discord and the in-game /ooc also had a lot of chatter from people saying they had not played EQ since Sony days.
As for people that have never played EQ, I vaguely recall people mentioning, in our THJ thread, that they got friends to play it that never played EQ before. Since the in-game /ooc is recorded in the THJ Discord, a person could probably get some rough idea of the people talking about being totally new to the game (covering in-game and all of Discord). At least, if they wanted to spend the time searching Discord using Discord's mediocre search function, which I don't.
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Of course the person that pulls shit out of thin air is the one that asks for sources so they can probably just disregard any source given to them.
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You’ve been corrected multiple times on this previously. I provided zero input on the 2025 TLP, and if I did get to provide input this isn’t what I’d ask for.
Mischief loot tables were made by Devs without player input from Classic - Velious which is why we had amazing tables like Spite Golems dropping Nagafen loot, Azeracks dropping Trakanon loot, Ragefire dropping PD loot, WW trash dragons and Growth Minis dropping Vulak loot.
I *believe* Vicious began providing input after Velious. It wasn’t until after PoP that I know for sure every random table became an actual player crafted table that was crafted and delivered wholesale. For instance DoDH tables came directly from Loot Goblins leader Kelorin which is why a bunch of boxable mobs drop Vule eyes and Sendai was T1. In PoR he submitted for Porthios dog to drop all the bones for prog (you know the dog you can instantly respawn by leashing Porthio). Ngreth also used the list from Kelorin for SoF.
I don’t recall which ones he used from Faceless but I think PoR and probably all the ones after HoT.
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