Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

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Araxen said:
I should rephrase. Why would they continue to give them money now. The server is RIP. You are "donating" to a blackhole.
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Almost every tlp eq player is also playing on a black hole. Nearly everyone playing these servers are investing into characters they will not be playing in a few years and they know it. Guilds like roi and faceless actually going to live and staying strong in live raiding are far and away the exceptions; nearly everyone abandons their characters at some point and they know they will.

Do the people here who played on servers like mischief feel bad if they paid for subs and then quit? Bags, station items, etc? I spent over a hundred in addition to sub costs on selo for bags, clicks, overseer. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there in both guilds I played in. I haven't touched that cleric in years.

90% of my video games are also black holes. I might never play baldurs gate 3 again; it was a great game and money well spent.

So what if thj is likely gonna be closed by the courts eventually? If you're having fun now, have fun, and don't feel bad about spending on a temporary hobby.
 
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yerm said:
Almost every tlp eq player is also playing on a black hole. Nearly everyone playing these servers are investing into characters they will not be playing in a few years and they know it. Guilds like roi and faceless actually going to live and staying strong in live raiding are far and away the exceptions; nearly everyone abandons their characters at some point and they know they will.

Do the people here who played on servers like mischief feel bad if they paid for subs and then quit? Bags, station items, etc? I spent over a hundred in addition to sub costs on selo for bags, clicks, overseer. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there in both guilds I played in. I haven't touched that cleric in years.

90% of my video games are also black holes. I might never play baldurs gate 3 again; it was a great game and money well spent.

So what if thj is likely gonna be closed by the courts eventually? If you're having fun now, have fun, and don't feel bad about spending on a temporary hobby.
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This. Never go into a video game looking for longevity. If you think its worth the cost(one time or not) and its fun for YOU, play till its you no longer have fun or no longer able to(whatever the cause). Like most entertainment, its temporary.
 
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yerm said:
Almost every tlp eq player is also playing on a black hole. Nearly everyone playing these servers are investing into characters they will not be playing in a few years and they know it. Guilds like roi and faceless actually going to live and staying strong in live raiding are far and away the exceptions; nearly everyone abandons their characters at some point and they know they will.

Do the people here who played on servers like mischief feel bad if they paid for subs and then quit? Bags, station items, etc? I spent over a hundred in addition to sub costs on selo for bags, clicks, overseer. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there in both guilds I played in. I haven't touched that cleric in years.

90% of my video games are also black holes. I might never play baldurs gate 3 again; it was a great game and money well spent.

So what if thj is likely gonna be closed by the courts eventually? If you're having fun now, have fun, and don't feel bad about spending on a temporary hobby.
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This is exactly why I have never played on a TLP. I do have a 60 character on P99. It's very much a blackhole too. Thankfully I don't play a Mage or a Ranger so their their epic can be farmed out for RMT.



 
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How's Fangbreaker going anyway

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They are smart, lay low, and host in countries that wont even accept a lawsuit.

seriously, THJ could have make money for years if they just didnt host the shit in a jurisdiction that cares.

Blizzard is also despite sucking for a decade, a very profitable company with many streams of income.

DBG has EQ and thats it. The rest of their portfolio probably doesnt pay the rent on their office.
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Exactly. They could easily host in Iceland or another country free from the reach of Uncle Sam and the rapacious legal system here.
 
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Torrid said:
TAKP has all of 45 people online right now and we never advertised our server anywhere because it was a preservation project and not a money making endeavor. TAKP has always had a low population problem which was kind of depressing for me because I thought the project was very successful in regards to accuracy. Daybreak could turn Al'Kabor back on and kill our server overnight if they wanted. (please do) Anyway I haven't gotten a donation in a couple of years. That's long over.

If monetization is your goal then you'll do things to attract as many players as possible, like advertise all over the place. The other emus don't do this. (p2002 aside) Also if you're getting paid significant amounts for your emu (enough to pay rent), you can devote much more time to it which increases the quality which makes it stand out against servers that don't monetize which makes it a bigger threat to Daybreak. You can praise THJ for being well-made but it's a hell of a lot easier to make a good server if you're getting revenue from it.
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TAKP is an amazing server and the community isn’t toxic in the traditional EQ sense but it is very insular and there is a strong “we don’t want new players” vibe there. Reading the whining on the forums when Elroz was doing the TAKP TLP was awful, and then they hamstring the TLP just to appease the TAKP players who won’t even play on the server. Killed in its cradle.
 
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This. Never go into a video game looking for longevity. If you think its worth the cost(one time or not) and its fun for YOU, play till its you no longer have fun or no longer able to(whatever the cause). Like most entertainment, its temporary.
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i've been into street fighter since it was in the arcades

counterstrike since it released on early steam, which people absolutely hated

i still enjoy board and card games

these are the endless MMO's, you don't build skill on your character, you improve your own real life skills

just look at online FIFA pro players, they can absolutely destroy people that have a team that is A+ with an F tier team based on muscle memory, faster thinking and a lot of automatisms
 
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Wynt said:
looks like - Q1 2025 - 20m USD revenue....~ $3m USD EBITDA ..

They also got 300 employees LOL - doing what ?
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20mil in a single quarter means they have over 500k players paying 12.95 a month or whatever sub, which is patently false.

They have like 3k subs, all whales, spending 750 a month in Kronos or whatever the daybreak cash shop currency is?

Or are they straight up lying. Hopefully they push for the real financials in discovery
 
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20mil in a single quarter means they have over 500k players paying 12.95 a month or whatever sub, which is patently false.

They have like 3k subs, all whales, spending 750 a month in Kronos or whatever the daybreak cash shop currency is?

Or are they straight up lying. Hopefully they push for the real financials in discovery
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Of course this is how the game works. Eve online was the first company to realize you could monetize your whole game by having an official path for poors to slave labor for their subs at the largesse of the non poors.
 
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Sylas said:
20mil in a single quarter means they have over 500k players paying 12.95 a month or whatever sub, which is patently false.

They have like 3k subs, all whales, spending 750 a month in Kronos or whatever the daybreak cash shop currency is?

Or are they straight up lying. Hopefully they push for the real financials in discovery
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Are you actually retarded? You think they have 3000 subs? They’ve had servers over 3000 concurrent. With communities over 10k non concurrent. Those are just single servers out of the 15 or so they run. That doesn’t even count MTX & expansion sales.

My guild on Teek had 1000 humans apply pre launch.
 
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Ok sure, how many subs do you think eq has? 10k? 20k? It sure as fuck isn't 500k. So its a handful of boomer retard whales spending hundreds a month on Kronos over to Chinese bot farms ran by daybreak gm's themselves?

Anyone playing eq deserves what they get
 
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