Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

rhinohelix

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Or you could look up the definition of Revenue, no one is talking about cash.
This thread brings me back, hits me right in the feels, seems like we are right back in the prime of 99 with people talking out of their ass: Just like old school EQ.
Bravo, gentlemen. Bravo.
 
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This thread brings me back, hits me right in the feels, seems like we are right back in the prime of 99 with people talking out of their ass: Just like old school EQ.
Bravo, gentlemen. Bravo.
We're now the true soul of everquest, may we live forever!
 
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Or you could look up the definition of Revenue, no one is talking about cash.
I have forgot more accounting than you have dreamed of High Elf orgy sex. And I know that is a lot. Back down from my accounting chest puff bitch. You ain't up for the challenge. I am the alpha.
 
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I have forgot more accounting than you have dreamed of High Elf orgy sex. And I know that is a lot. Back down from my accounting chest puff bitch. You ain't up for the challenge. I am the alpha.
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I mean, he is right about the copyright bullshit and how disney (and others) basically fucked and perverted the law into keeping their shit in their hands for ever or like their hands, their kids hands, and their grand kids hands. The OG copyright law was for 14 yrs and then file an extension for another 14 yrs. Now while 14 yrs, yeah, it might be too short, how this ever got to 70 yrs after death or 100+ yrs for a corpo or whatever is fucking beyond me, lol.

  • Copyright Act of 1790. Term of 14 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1831. Term extended to 28 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1909. Term of 28 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1976. Life of the author, plus 50 years (generally) ...
  • Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act (1998)
 
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I have forgot more accounting than you have dreamed of High Elf orgy sex. And I know that is a lot. Back down from my accounting chest puff bitch. You ain't up for the challenge. I am the alpha.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
 
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

You need to change your avatar. It seriously undermines your position.
 
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moonarchia

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I mean, he is right about the copyright bullshit and how disney (and others) basically fucked and perverted the law into keeping their shit in their hands for ever or like their hands, their kids hands, and their grand kids hands. The OG copyright law was for 14 yrs and then file an extension for another 14 yrs. Now while 14 yrs, yeah, it might be too short, how this ever got to 70 yrs after death or 100+ yrs for a corpo or whatever is fucking beyond me, lol.

  • Copyright Act of 1790. Term of 14 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1831. Term extended to 28 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1909. Term of 28 years. ...
  • Copyright Act of 1976. Life of the author, plus 50 years (generally) ...
  • Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act (1998)
Yup. It fucking sucks. It's why the public domain has stagnated so horribly.
 
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I mean, he is right about the copyright bullshit and how disney (and others) basically fucked and perverted the law into keeping their shit in their hands for ever or like their hands, their kids hands, and their grand kids hands. The OG copyright law was for 14 yrs and then file an extension for another 14 yrs. Now while 14 yrs, yeah, it might be too short, how this ever got to 70 yrs after death or 100+ yrs for a corpo or whatever is fucking beyond me, lol.

The more fucked up thing is they convinced people piracy/copyright violations = theft.
 
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So THJ is liable for EQEMU now? Daybreak has officially licensed p99 which requires you to use EQEMU.

I would love to see some proof of this, because in the complaint Daybreak linked to some Githubs. Some of those don't exist and the ones that do aren't linked to the defendants in the case.
im just saying eqemu as its own is infringement, by law; not at all a way to win this suit... i dont think that holds any water in the DPG vs THJ suit.

id imagine the client side injection mods are the biggest deal (besides the EoM/donations). Those mods may be private github repos and thus links dont exist without access. I imagine that is why secrets is scared too because of the massive client mods PQ does... even the dev of zeal (a client side mod for PQ) has removed his public zeal releases off github.
 

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Too bad no one but you is bringing "soul" into a conversation about the law. You want the law to change, but are upset about what it is going to take to get that done. Buckle up, buttercup, because you are in for a lot of disappointment until you get back to reality. THJ is going to be subject to whatever DPG really wants from this lawsuit. Period. THJ infringed on DPG's copyrights so obviously and flagrantly that there is no chance whatsoever if this actually goes to court. Their only chance is to ask DPG what they want, and to capitulate utterly and completely in a settlement before then. That's the reality of the situation they are in. I'm not happy about it, but I understand it. Copyright law in its current state is certainly fucked up. If you want it to be changed, you are going to have to buy an awful lot of congress critters to even try to do so. Good luck if that's what you want to do.

Thanks for confirming exactly what I said. You admit the system is broken and corrupted, but your only move is to shrug and say "deal with it." That’s not insight, that’s just giving up and calling it wisdom. We all know THJ is legally vulnerable. Nobody’s arguing otherwise. The difference is some of us still care about what EQ was meant to be, while you’re content to cheer on the slow corporate gutting of something people actually loved.

And to everyone mocking the idea of "soul," thanks for showing exactly why gaming keeps getting worse. You act like cynicism makes you smart and caring makes you cringe. But it was soul that built Norrath in the first place, not legal paperwork and shareholder slides. Without it, you don’t have a living world, you just have a product to be milked and discarded, which is exactly what you have in Darkpaw’s Everquest now.

This is the same mentality that’s taken over the official forums too. They’re full of people who’ve totally internalized "it’s a business™" as if that somehow excuses every bad decision. They tell themselves they have to support every bit of mismanagement because anything that keeps the spice flowing must be defended at all costs. It’s just empty corporate loyalty dressed up as pragmatism.

By the way, besides Furor’s Plane of Time rant, remind me what exactly FOH forums have actually contributed to the fantasy MMORPG genre? Because from here, it looks like all talk and no soul, forever stuck on the sidelines mocking anyone who still cares, while watching other people build worlds. Let’s not forget this forum’s habit of idolizing "celebs" like Curt Schilling and ex-EQ devs, turning them into rockstars while contributing nothing meaningful themselves. The real magic has always come from passionate players and actual builders, like the EQEmu community and private server devs, not forum groupies worshipping personalities.

And to you specifically, enjoy using this lawsuit as your big chance to grandstand for forum clout and score cheap points with the cynics. It’s easy to act like the smartest guy in the room when all you do is repeat legal footnotes and mock the people who actually gave a damn.

Enjoy patting yourselves on the back for "understanding reality" while you fight over deck chairs on the Titanic that is modern EverQuest. Sad that the THJ lawsuit is the only newsworthy thing to happen to the EQ franchise in years. That alone should tell you everything.

I’ll take caring too much over applauding the slow death of a world any day.
 
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This thread brings me back, hits me right in the feels, seems like we are right back in the prime of 99 with people talking out of their ass: Just like old school EQ.
Bravo, gentlemen. Bravo.

for reals. I haven’t been so invested in a thread in forever. This is going to go down on par with tyens horrible life. Not quite a Megan Fox of Ohio or Johnny49 but this thread delivers autism and retardation at peak 2003 levels and it makes me happy to see a reminder of what used to be.
 
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for reals. I haven’t been so invested in a thread in forever. This is going to go down on par with tyens horrible life. Not quite a Megan Fox of Ohio or Johnny49 but this thread delivers autism and retardation at peak 2003 levels and it makes me happy to see a reminder of what used to be.
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Yup. It fucking sucks. It's why the public domain has stagnated so horribly.
It's not just that; our whole society has ground to a halt creatively across multiple/all mediums over the last decade. Political correctness/wokeism//cancel culture/metoo/cultural marxism/Great Leap Forward/corporatism/ideation atomization/whatever your favorite bugbear is, we have stopped producing good original music/plays/TV/movies/ideas, for the most part. WE across almost all endeavors have stagnated, and although some of that shows signs of changing and hopefully our "lost decade" is coming to an end, Magic 8-ball says "Ask again later".


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Thanks for confirming exactly what I said. You admit the system is broken and corrupted, but your only move is to shrug and say "deal with it." That’s not insight, that’s just giving up and calling it wisdom. We all know THJ is legally vulnerable. Nobody’s arguing otherwise. The difference is some of us still care about what EQ was meant to be, while you’re content to cheer on the slow corporate gutting of something people actually loved.

And to everyone mocking the idea of "soul," thanks for showing exactly why gaming keeps getting worse. You act like cynicism makes you smart and caring makes you cringe. But it was soul that built Norrath in the first place, not legal paperwork and shareholder slides. Without it, you don’t have a living world, you just have a product to be milked and discarded, which is exactly what you have in Darkpaw’s Everquest now.

This is the same mentality that’s taken over the official forums too. They’re full of people who’ve totally internalized "it’s a business™" as if that somehow excuses every bad decision. They tell themselves they have to support every bit of mismanagement because anything that keeps the spice flowing must be defended at all costs. It’s just empty corporate loyalty dressed up as pragmatism.

By the way, besides Furor’s Plane of Time rant, remind me what exactly FOH forums have actually contributed to the fantasy MMORPG genre? Because from here, it looks like all talk and no soul, forever stuck on the sidelines mocking anyone who still cares, while watching other people build worlds. Let’s not forget this forum’s habit of idolizing "celebs" like Curt Schilling and ex-EQ devs, turning them into rockstars while contributing nothing meaningful themselves. The real magic has always come from passionate players and actual builders, like the EQEmu community and private server devs, not forum groupies worshipping personalities.

And to you specifically, enjoy using this lawsuit as your big chance to grandstand for forum clout and score cheap points with the cynics. It’s easy to act like the smartest guy in the room when all you do is repeat legal footnotes and mock the people who actually gave a damn.

Enjoy patting yourselves on the back for "understanding reality" while you fight over deck chairs on the Titanic that is modern EverQuest. Sad that the THJ lawsuit is the only newsworthy thing to happen to the EQ franchise in years. That alone should tell you everything.

I’ll take caring too much over applauding the slow death of a world any day.
Thank you for continuing to not understand the English language. Absolutely no one here is applauding anything, and that doesn't change just because you keep repeating it.

We are mocking you because you are talking nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Proselytize somewhere that might have an effect, or keep pissing in the wind. Up to you.


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Thank you for continuing to not understand the English language. Absolutely no one here is applauding anything, and that doesn't change just because you keep repeating it.

We are mocking you because you are talking nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Proselytize somewhere that might have an effect, or keep pissing in the wind. Up to you.
Thanks for confirming that mocking is all you’ve got left. You’re not here to discuss, you’re here to strut around and sneer at anyone who still gives a damn. And that royal "we" you keep dropping? Cute. Nothing screams insecurity like trying to cosplay as the voice of the entire forum.

This is a MMORPG forum, built on imagination, passion, and community, not some dry courtroom where you get to play fake lawyer. I already conceded the legal reality. You just can’t handle anyone talking about soul because you traded yours for cheap forum clout a long time ago.
 
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Thanks for confirming that mocking is all you’ve got left. You’re not here to discuss, you’re here to strut around and sneer at anyone who still gives a damn. And that royal "we" you keep dropping? Cute. Nothing screams insecurity like trying to cosplay as the voice of the entire forum.

This is a MMORPG forum, built on imagination, passion, and community, not some dry courtroom where you get to play fake lawyer. I already conceded the legal reality. You just can’t handle anyone talking about soul because you traded yours for cheap forum clout a long time ago.
Sorry you lack the ability to contextualize. "We" in this instance refers specifically to the people mocking you in this thread, who have also been saying as much.

This forum is built on XenForo, and a few decades of arguing with each other on just about every topic under the sun. The topic of this thread is about a courtroom case, your attempts to bloviate about "soul" have jack and shit to do with that.

We have lots of threads about EQ in general where people share their opinions about the current state of play. You might want to try your shtick there. Or not, I will absolutely keep mocking you if you want to yammer on about soul, though. It's fun.
 
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Need some air support from a crazy drunk Minnesotan flying an F-16 like 5 O'clock Charlie? You have my wings brother.

Let's send some debits down to his credits and balance his ass. He will be whistling dixie out of his ledger with our First in First out inventory system.
 
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