Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

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If anyone truly cares about EverQuest, then their greatest act of loyalty is to stop funding its corporate captors. Every subscription renewed and every microtransaction purchased only validates Enad Global 7’s strategy of managed decline. Ji Ham and Jason Epstein are ruthless investment bankers who don't care about video games and EverQuest. They are not stewards of a classic IP; they are caretakers of a revenue stream, slowly stripping away the game’s soul for quarterly reports. The only way to break this cycle is to make the IP unprofitable in their hands.

If players continue to play on the official servers, they are unwittingly propping up Daybreak and Darkpaw, which only prolongs the dysfunction and mismanagement. If you really need your fix of real EverQuest, play on Project 1999.

Starving Daybreak by boycotting EQ forces them to spend more money maintaining the servers and paying their staff than they are making. This strategy forces a sale. When the servers are empty and the money dries up, the parent company will have no choice but to relinquish the rights. This is the only path to a future where the game could be owned by developers who understand its spirit or community backed preservationists. Withdrawing support is not an attack on the game. It is the necessary surgery to cut out the rot so that something new can finally grow.
yeh fuck that im busy killing dragons and selling my swag in the bazaar
 
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Epstein confirmed to be a gnome peddling wood elves to humans. That’s why they had to shut down the boat and use translocation.
 

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If anyone truly cares about EverQuest, then their greatest act of loyalty is to stop funding its corporate captors. Every subscription renewed and every microtransaction purchased only validates Enad Global 7’s strategy of managed decline. Ji Ham and Jason Epstein are ruthless investment bankers who don't care about video games and EverQuest. They are not stewards of a classic IP; they are caretakers of a revenue stream, slowly stripping away the game’s soul for quarterly reports. The only way to break this cycle is to make the IP unprofitable in their hands.

If players continue to play on the official servers, they are unwittingly propping up Daybreak and Darkpaw, which only prolongs the dysfunction and mismanagement. If you really need your fix of real EverQuest, play on Project 1999.

Starving Daybreak by boycotting EQ forces them to spend more money maintaining the servers and paying their staff than they are making. This strategy forces a sale. When the servers are empty and the money dries up, the parent company will have no choice but to relinquish the rights. This is the only path to a future where the game could be owned by developers who understand its spirit or community backed preservationists. Withdrawing support is not an attack on the game. It is the necessary surgery to cut out the rot so that something new can finally grow.
If you believe any of this, you are fucking delusional. That is literally not how any of this works. If the IP stops being free money they will be open to selling it, but you would still have to pony up a few million for it for them to be interested in selling instead of sitting on it as part of their portfolio.

EQ is not a religion. It is a game. There is no 'loyalty' to it. You either play it or you don't. If they manage to make it fun again I have no problem giving them money. I am giving them money for DDO, and might do so for LOTRO in the future.
 
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Removing context while quoting people is fun.

If you believe any of this, you are fucking delusional. That is literally not how any of this works. If the IP stops being free money they will be open to selling it, but you would still have to pony up a few million for it for them to be interested in selling instead of sitting on it as part of their portfolio.

How much was THJ taking in monthly again?
 
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If anyone truly cares about EverQuest, then their greatest act of loyalty is to stop funding its corporate captors. Every subscription renewed and every microtransaction purchased only validates Enad Global 7’s strategy of managed decline. Ji Ham and Jason Epstein are ruthless investment bankers who don't care about video games and EverQuest. They are not stewards of a classic IP; they are caretakers of a revenue stream, slowly stripping away the game’s soul for quarterly reports. The only way to break this cycle is to make the IP unprofitable in their hands.

If players continue to play on the official servers, they are unwittingly propping up Daybreak and Darkpaw, which only prolongs the dysfunction and mismanagement. If you really need your fix of real EverQuest, play on Project 1999.

Starving Daybreak by boycotting EQ forces them to spend more money maintaining the servers and paying their staff than they are making. This strategy forces a sale. When the servers are empty and the money dries up, the parent company will have no choice but to relinquish the rights. This is the only path to a future where the game could be owned by developers who understand its spirit or community backed preservationists. Withdrawing support is not an attack on the game. It is the necessary surgery to cut out the rot so that something new can finally grow.

If life ever feels like it's too much to handle, take comfort in the fact that you're not this guy
 
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At this point old man potter is Mr Sox running his insanity through gpt and outputing this overly verbose horseshit
 
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Epstein confirmed to be a gnome peddling wood elves to humans. That’s why they had to shut down the boat and use translocation.

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If you believe any of this, you are fucking delusional. That is literally not how any of this works. If the IP stops being free money they will be open to selling it, but you would still have to pony up a few million for it for them to be interested in selling instead of sitting on it as part of their portfolio.

EQ is not a religion. It is a game. There is no 'loyalty' to it. You either play it or you don't. If they manage to make it fun again I have no problem giving them money. I am giving them money for DDO, and might do so for LOTRO in the future.
While I completely agree that it is not a religion, it is actually more than just a game. I mean, at its core, it IS just a game, but the community built around it is not just a game.

There's hundreds of MMORPGs out there and hundreds more that have gone away over the years, but one reality is that most are EITHER a WoW-clone or NOT a WoW-clone. The ones that are not WoW-clones are typically unique in someway that makes it nearly impossible to find a direct replacement for that game if you chose to move on to something else while still playing that same kind of game so to speak.

Long story short, Everquest is one of those games that is unique enough that there is no direct replacement for it. Monsters and Memories is pretty much the closest thing to an EQ-clone.

That all being said, if you really love playing EQ and/or have played it for more than a decade with friends and family, it IS more than just a game. It's a very important hobby in your life that you can't easily replace with another game because there are no EQ-clones to replace it with (at least until Monsters and Memories comes out, and even then it is unique enough that it isn't a direct replacement for the game.

So, when you say just go play another MMORPG because EQ is just a game, you're being disingenuous because what you are actually saying is "give up your hobby that you have been enjoying for the past decade plus".

No. It is not a religion.

But, it is more than just a game.

I've essentially done exactly what you said to do. I gave up my hobby of over two decades and moved on. Lotro is not a replacement for Everquest, but it is a damn good fun ass game to play, and it has helped me to get over my EQ addition. But.. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that it was easy to give up my EQ addiction. It took a long fucking time to get over that addiction.
 
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While I completely agree that it is not a religion, it is actually more than just a game. I mean, at its core, it IS just a game, but the community built around it is not just a game.

There's hundreds of MMORPGs out there and hundreds more that have gone away over the years, but one reality is that most are EITHER a WoW-clone or NOT a WoW-clone. The ones that are not WoW-clones are typically unique in someway that makes it nearly impossible to find a direct replacement for that game if you chose to move on to something else while still playing that same kind of game so to speak.

Long story short, Everquest is one of those games that is unique enough that there is no direct replacement for it. Monsters and Memories is pretty much the closest thing to an EQ-clone.

That all being said, if you really love playing EQ and/or have played it for more than a decade with friends and family, it IS more than just a game. It's a very important hobby in your life that you can't easily replace with another game because there are no EQ-clones to replace it with (at least until Monsters and Memories comes out, and even then it is unique enough that it isn't a direct replacement for the game.

So, when you say just go play another MMORPG because EQ is just a game, you're being disingenuous because what you are actually saying is "give up your hobby that you have been enjoying for the past decade plus".

No. It is not a religion.

But, it is more than just a game.

I've essentially done exactly what you said to do. I gave up my hobby of over two decades and moved on. Lotro is not a replacement for Everquest, but it is a damn good fun ass game to play, and it has helped me to get over my EQ addition. But.. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that it was easy to give up my EQ addiction. It took a long fucking time to get over that addiction.
No, it is just a game. And as you say, they come and go. The community is people. Those also come and go. I would love to meet the TMO crew irl and buy Ed a meal and catch up on the last 25 years. The people who you made those memories with have most likely moved on. If you are still playing together, it's probably not limited to EQ.

I am fine with people hating DBG or hating EQ or loving them. I will also happily laugh at any retard (the other guy, not you) who conflates it with something in life that is actually important, and is trying to whip up some Quixotic fantasy about 'saving' it from the evil people that own it. Put that crack pipe down and either come up with an actual plan that could actually come to pass, or let it go. DBG is a business. A fairly big one that is in the business of milking $$$ out of dying franchises. If you were actually ask DBG or ENAD how much they wanted for it you could come up with a business plan to raise those funds and buy it out from them.
 
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No, it is just a game. And as you say, they come and go. The community is people. Those also come and go. I would love to meet the TMO crew irl and buy Ed a meal and catch up on the last 25 years. The people who you made those memories with have most likely moved on. If you are still playing together, it's probably not limited to EQ.

I am fine with people hating DBG or hating EQ or loving them. I will also happily laugh at any retard (the other guy, not you) who conflates it with something in life that is actually important, and is trying to whip up some Quixotic fantasy about 'saving' it from the evil people that own it. Put that crack pipe down and either come up with an actual plan that could actually come to pass, or let it go. DBG is a business. A fairly big one that is in the business of milking $$$ out of dying franchises. If you were actually ask DBG or ENAD how much they wanted for it you could come up with a business plan to raise those funds and buy it out from them.
I agree.

At this point though, I don't think I would ever go back to play EQ even if DBG and ENAD was not part of it anymore.

What I would rather see happen is someone purchase EQ from ENAD simply so they own the IP, and then make a new MMORPG based on the EQ ruleset and such. New game client and server, but base it all off of the EQ game. I like the EQ game client. I'm just tired of playing the same content over and over and over and over.

That and I lost faith in DBG as a company due to all the corruption that runs rampant in that company. I can't put money in to a game subscription where you don't know from day to day if your shit is still going to be there or if some corrupt employee will have suspended or banned your account for "what ever reason they come up with at that moment". Corrupt employees working for corrupt companies is a hard stop for me. I've been wrongly suspended before just because I was in a zone where an asshole got his GM buddy to kick/suspend everyone in the zone because he was throwing a fit about not getting all the spawns to himself. Yeah. Fuck that shit. Seeing DBG sue THJ was just the final straw that broke the camels back for me, and just so you understand, I had jack shit to do with THJ. I haven't touched an emu server in years. I was a paying TLP player. I didn't even use Krono, so technically, I was one of the actual PAYING customers for those TLP servers that DBG loves to make money off of.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. Someone will be along shortly to slap a meme reply on me, and I will laugh because that shit is funny.
 
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I agree.

At this point though, I don't think I would ever go back to play EQ even if DBG and ENAD was not part of it anymore.

What I would rather see happen is someone purchase EQ from ENAD simply so they own the IP, and then make a new MMORPG based on the EQ ruleset and such. New game client and server, but base it all off of the EQ game. I like the EQ game client. I'm just tired of playing the same content over and over and over and over.

That and I lost faith in DBG as a company due to all the corruption that runs rampant in that company. I can't put money in to a game subscription where you don't know from day to day if your shit is still going to be there or if some corrupt employee will have suspended or banned your account for "what ever reason they come up with at that moment". Corrupt employees working for corrupt companies is a hard stop for me. I've been wrongly suspended before just because I was in a zone where an asshole got his GM buddy to kick/suspend everyone in the zone because he was throwing a fit about not getting all the spawns to himself. Yeah. Fuck that shit. Seeing DBG sue THJ was just the final straw that broke the camels back for me, and just so you understand, I had jack shit to do with THJ. I haven't touched an emu server in years. I was a paying TLP player. I didn't even use Krono, so technically, I was one of the actual PAYING customers for those TLP servers that DBG loves to make money off of.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. Someone will be along shortly to slap a meme reply on me, and I will laugh because that shit is funny.
That would be a happy ending, but the ROI is probably never going to be there. I don't think the Mr. Sox Mr. Sox and Old Man Potter Old Man Potter s of the world are going to ever be able to crowdfund the type of money to buy the IP. You would need an insanely big whale of an angel investor for that kind of thing.
 
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I agree.

At this point though, I don't think I would ever go back to play EQ even if DBG and ENAD was not part of it anymore.

What I would rather see happen is someone purchase EQ from ENAD simply so they own the IP, and then make a new MMORPG based on the EQ ruleset and such. New game client and server, but base it all off of the EQ game. I like the EQ game client. I'm just tired of playing the same content over and over and over and over.

That and I lost faith in DBG as a company due to all the corruption that runs rampant in that company. I can't put money in to a game subscription where you don't know from day to day if your shit is still going to be there or if some corrupt employee will have suspended or banned your account for "what ever reason they come up with at that moment". Corrupt employees working for corrupt companies is a hard stop for me. I've been wrongly suspended before just because I was in a zone where an asshole got his GM buddy to kick/suspend everyone in the zone because he was throwing a fit about not getting all the spawns to himself. Yeah. Fuck that shit. Seeing DBG sue THJ was just the final straw that broke the camels back for me, and just so you understand, I had jack shit to do with THJ. I haven't touched an emu server in years. I was a paying TLP player. I didn't even use Krono, so technically, I was one of the actual PAYING customers for those TLP servers that DBG loves to make money off of.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. Someone will be along shortly to slap a meme reply on me, and I will laugh because that shit is funny.
Group tried to KS my epic mob for my shaman and I woke up the next day and the shaman was banned. No cheats or hacks, SEQ w/e in the background on that PC. Havent really given another TLP the time of day since.
 
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New expansion looks good can't wait to find out Myong Mistmoore was behind it all and we'll need to go to his plane to stop him again before he's able to assemble the four planer orbs and rewrite all of history leading into Everquest 3.
 
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If you believe any of this, you are fucking delusional. That is literally not how any of this works. If the IP stops being free money they will be open to selling it, but you would still have to pony up a few million for it for them to be interested in selling instead of sitting on it as part of their portfolio.

EQ is not a religion. It is a game. There is no 'loyalty' to it. You either play it or you don't. If they manage to make it fun again I have no problem giving them money. I am giving them money for DDO, and might do so for LOTRO in the future.

Pretty much. Vanguard is another IP they hold and it's still worth millions. Ask price tries to offset losses. Vanguard being deep in the red actually increases the asking price, rather than lower it. They add the total amount of money pissed away trying to support the game to the IP valuation. If they can't recoup losses ripping someone off-- then they have no reason to sell it. It adds more value sitting in the portfolio (per investor report) EQ, VG, or otherwise is never going to go on firesale. You either offer an amount that fixes their balance sheet, or you aren't buying anything.
 
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They will probably hold onto all the IPs they currently have till they are insolvent.

Unless some shithead shows up and just buys the whole company.. AKA EA..(WTF?)