Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

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They will probably hold onto all the IPs they currently have till they are insolvent.

Unless some shithead shows up and just buys the whole company.. AKA EA..(WTF?)
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If they aren't actively offering a game, and they are the IP owner, they would probably be open to offers. These games don't have book/film franchises or anything at all beyond the game, so they aren't going to be useful once the games die. They don't own LOTRO's main IP, so they won't have that option there. Or DDO. They aren't in the leather or butcher business, so a dead cow doesn't do them much good. To ENAD the EQ IP is just another asset at the end of the day. It has a value, and if someone wants to buy they can find out what the asking price is.
 
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Be careful, the quicker we have the destruction of EQ shareholders, the sooner we realize all of our life successes were an excuse to eventually buy the IP for ourselves.
 
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Be careful, the quicker we have the destruction of EQ shareholders, the sooner we realize all of our life successes were an excuse to eventually buy the IP for ourselves.
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Walking into this thread and reading the last few pages.....

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moonarchia said:
If they aren't actively offering a game, and they are the IP owner, they would probably be open to offers. These games don't have book/film franchises or anything at all beyond the game, so they aren't going to be useful once the games die. They don't own LOTRO's main IP, so they won't have that option there. Or DDO. They aren't in the leather or butcher business, so a dead cow doesn't do them much good. To ENAD the EQ IP is just another asset at the end of the day. It has a value, and if someone wants to buy they can find out what the asking price is.
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So we just need to find the one Saudi Oil Prince from THJ?
 
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So we just need to find the one Saudi Oil Prince from THJ?
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Maybe someone should talk to the whales that play EVE and ask if they are willing to bail out EQ players and separate it from Gaybreak Gaming.
 
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New Prediction. THJ is going to buy Everquest in Late 2026 with the bond+crowd funding from whales after they win in the court of appeals because of Estoppel.

Book it. Daycucks gonna be hella mad about that one.
 
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I don't recall the exact percentages from that 2023 egad presentation but i seem to recall that EQ1+2 was pulling in 1mil a month in revenue and it was around 20% profit or 200k (assuming any of their numbers are accurate and not just money laundering) which explains why 2 dudes snagging 100k worth of their whales disability checks per month really was an existential threat and could have bankrupted the franchise.

plugging those numbers into a valuation calculator, given negative growth and dwindling revenues year to year, granted I know next to nothing about how these business calculators work, but it says that the IP isn't really worth all that much.

No need for any saudi oil princes, Like probably Cad could liquidate and buy EQ outright.
 
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I don't recall the exact percentages from that 2023 egad presentation but i seem to recall that EQ1+2 was pulling in 1mil a month in revenue and it was around 20% profit or 200k (assuming any of their numbers are accurate and not just money laundering) which explains why 2 dudes snagging 100k worth of their whales disability checks per month really was an existential threat and could have bankrupted the franchise.

plugging those numbers into a valuation calculator, given negative growth and dwindling revenues year to year, granted I know next to nothing about how these business calculators work, but it says that the IP isn't really worth all that much.

No need for any saudi oil princes, Like probably Cad could liquidate and buy EQ outright.
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$200k monthly is still $2.4M per year. For a buyout on something like that the owner is usually going to want a fair number of years of profit to be willing to sell. I don't think Cad Cad would want to drop $25M or more on Wood Elf Dating Sim '99. Going to need a Saudi prince or something to be willing to waste that kind of money.
 
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Oh you plugged in 10 years of flat or positive return rates? Yeah more realistically 2 years with a 30% decline per year. if you offered them 25 million that would prolly buy the entire portfolio, licenses to all the IPs they manage but don't own (DCU, DDO, LOTRO) and a blow job from the CEO.
 
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Oh you plugged in 10 years of flat or positive return rates? Yeah more realistically 2 years with a 30% decline per year. if you offered them 25 million that would prolly buy the entire portfolio, licenses to all the IPs they manage but don't own (DCU, DDO, LOTRO) and a blow job from the CEO.
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$200k a month on their second or third biggest product. They are far from fire sale era, so love it or hate it, but a standard offer would be a lot more likely. ENAD has an ROI they will hold out for.
 
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yeah but we're not discussing the theoretical purchasing of Dark Paw Games we're discussing the theoretical purchasing of that second or 3rd biggest product only, EQ1 (and thus EQ2 since it's basically thrown in for free)

200k a month 2 years ago but, if their court filings are to be believed, it's down to ~100k a month (probably less) from the loss of revenue by THJ. Unless of course they were lying to the courts about the financial impact of THJ on their business, which of course they would never do that!

so realistically we're talking maybe 1-1.5mil year one but a sharp drop off towards nothing over just a few years.
 
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Sometimes it's okay to just let things die. They get gross if you keep them on life support too long.
 
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I was never a huge poster on that sub but I'm glad to see that cuck got pushed out. I don't really care if you make some random subreddit and you want to run it like an asshat, but I'm not a huge fan of how reddit lets random basement dwellers "park" on subreddit names associated with popular games, movies, etc and then run it like a fiefdom. It basically lets random sperg outs have control over the entire "topic" for that media property on reddit.

That guy who just got booted was a long line of emo basement dwellers who had been the owners of the eq sub, almost always they were super terrible players who did nothing but cry about the game.
 
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If I make a dating app game out of Everquest and charge monthly subscriptions, could DBG come after me?
 
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