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Never tried therapy, went Friday for eval and first session yesterday. Wasn't really impressed with the lady. Started repeating stuff after 20 minutes. She talked about setting up long term goals next meeting, so will at least go to that and see those.
If the first one doesn't work, try a different one. Try a dozen different ones if you need to.
 
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If the first one doesn't work, try a different one. Try a dozen different ones if you need to.

I found a great therapist. She helped me connect the dots on a lot of the weird shit in my life.

Unfortunately, I found a great therapist, and she's booked almost immediately when her appointments open up. I also mostly have my shit together and am functional these days, so I figure other people need her more than me.

Sucks no matter what!
 
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had one more session after my last post, almost 3 weeks after the first one, the next one was going to be on the 30th of this month. really didn't feel like it went anywhere. called today to switch to another person, next opening late January.
talked to my general doctor today, this place was 2nd on her list of places to try. the first place had a 3 month wait. she told me of another place to try if this person doesn't work out.
 

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had one more session after my last post, almost 3 weeks after the first one, the next one was going to be on the 30th of this month. really didn't feel like it went anywhere. called today to switch to another person, next opening late January.
talked to my general doctor today, this place was 2nd on her list of places to try. the first place had a 3 month wait. she told me of another place to try if this person doesn't work out.
What about it didn't you like other than it didn't seem to go anywhere? Can you expand on that?
 

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had one more session after my last post, almost 3 weeks after the first one, the next one was going to be on the 30th of this month. really didn't feel like it went anywhere. called today to switch to another person, next opening late January.
talked to my general doctor today, this place was 2nd on her list of places to try. the first place had a 3 month wait. she told me of another place to try if this person doesn't work out.
We're probably not allowed to say so in the grown up section because it may hurt someones feelings, but at some point in your exploration of therapy I hope you consider the conclusion many of us have reached, that its just a (mostly benevolent) trick, and that any good that could be "achieved by therapy" could be achieved by sitting down and having a long honest conversation with yourself.

Without having to listen to some barely educated far-left person discuss your life and say nothing of substance.
 

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We're probably not allowed to say so in the grown up section because it may hurt someones feelings, but at some point in your exploration of therapy I hope you consider the conclusion many of us have reached, that its just a (mostly benevolent) trick, and that any good that could be "achieved by therapy" could be achieved by sitting down and having a long honest conversation with yourself.

Without having to listen to some barely educated far-left person discuss your life and say nothing of substance.
You absolutely can achieve the results you want on your own much in the same way you can achieve the physical results you want in the gym without a personal trainer.

A personal trainer certainly helps get you started especially if you don’t know where to start, and gives you the work you need to be doing outside your sessions to meet your goals. A good therapist is the same way, go in knowing what issues you are trying to solve, do a shit load of work outside of your sessions, talk about progress/setbacks to stay on task. Improve to the point you no longer need a trainer.

Starting is often the hardest part for lots of people, but it is worth starting. I recommend anything that makes starting less overwhelming.

Depression is a real motherfucker. For me it was like being in a deep hole, and the worst part was there was a ladder in the hole with me. All I had to do was start climbing and eventually I would get out. Every day for awhile was “the hole isn’t the end of the world, I’ll start climbing tomorrow”, then tomorrow would come and I’d feel worse for not starting. Therapy isn’t magic, but it’s starting the climb. Stack up all the wins you can imo.
 
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What about it didn't you like other than it didn't seem to go anywhere? Can you expand on that?
in the 2nd session, she repeated questions from the first session again, then asked them again later on. don't mean like questions to expand on things, but just basic "who was that" and same follow up questions. after about 40 mins, there was a long pause and she broke out a questionnaire to fill the rest of the hour. in the 1st session said she would put together a list of goals, which she didn't do.
"do you have panic attacks?"
me - never
next 5-10 mins
"i like to go over 2 good ways to deal with panic attacks"

she got married had 2 kids, after 16 years husband died of massive heart attack, she remarried 6 years later, is currently going through chemo for breast cancer. feels like i shouldn't know this. also think going by all the games and toys in the room she normally deals with younger people.


We're probably not allowed to say so in the grown up section because it may hurt someones feelings, but at some point in your exploration of therapy I hope you consider the conclusion many of us have reached, that its just a (mostly benevolent) trick, and that any good that could be "achieved by therapy" could be achieved by sitting down and having a long honest conversation with yourself.

Without having to listen to some barely educated far-left person discuss your life and say nothing of substance.

think i spend too much time in my own head as it is.

the main problem i have used suppression to deal with most of my issues and just getting overwhelmed.
 

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in the 2nd session, she repeated questions from the first session again, then asked them again later on. don't mean like questions to expand on things, but just basic "who was that" and same follow up questions. after about 40 mins, there was a long pause and she broke out a questionnaire to fill the rest of the hour. in the 1st session said she would put together a list of goals, which she didn't do.
"do you have panic attacks?"
me - never
next 5-10 mins
"i like to go over 2 good ways to deal with panic attacks"

she got married had 2 kids, after 16 years husband died of massive heart attack, she remarried 6 years later, is currently going through chemo for breast cancer. feels like i shouldn't know this. also think going by all the games and toys in the room she normally deals with younger people.




think i spend too much time in my own head as it is.

the main problem i have used suppression to deal with most of my issues and just getting overwhelmed.
I'd probably only consider therapy if you find it helpful to talk to someone about these issues. Some may, some may not.

I disagree with Izo here and think SSRI's are generally not helpful, but medical literature says they are. You do whats best for you.
 

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I'd probably only consider therapy if you find it helpful to talk to someone about these issues. Some may, some may not.

I disagree with Izo here and think SSRI's are generally not helpful, but medical literature says they are. You do whats best for you.
Medications are a mixed bag in my experience, over the course of my treatment I took three different antidepressants from different categories and they did fuck all (except for Prozac which basically made it almost impossible to cum while I was on it)

Spravato was a game changer for me though. Of course you have to prove you’ve failed treatment twice on other anti-depressants before insurance will consider covering it and it still requires prior authorization. Thanks America.
 
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Medications are a mixed bag in my experience, over the course of my treatment I took three different antidepressants from different categories and they did fuck all (except for Prozac which basically made it almost impossible to cum while I was on it)

Spravato was a game changer for me though. Of course you have to prove you’ve failed treatment twice on other anti-depressants before insurance will consider covering it and it still requires prior authorization. Thanks America.
Yea dude I bet doing bumps of ket all day makes people happy, no shit.
 

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Yea dude I bet doing bumps of ket all day makes people happy, no shit.
Not sure why so aggressive, just letting the man know there’s plenty of options out there. You gotta find what works for you, but medication is in no means the whole solution or even most of it,

It didn’t even make me happy, it helped me get from “I can’t do this” to “I think I can do this”
 
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Not sure why so aggressive, just letting the man know there’s plenty of options out there. You gotta find what works for you, but medication is in no means the whole solution or even most of it,

It didn’t even make me happy, it helped me get from “I can’t do this” to “I think I can do this”
I don't mean it in a bad way, I'm just surprised they're at the ket nasal spray level already. Tons of people do ket recreationally (basically that same way or via key bumps) so it's not a surprise to me that it helps with depressive symptoms.
 

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anyone had experience with any of the swap tests?

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my pcp put me on citalopram, but i stopped taking it. the place i go to offers one of the test, but don't think my insurance would cover it after one drug.
 

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think i spend too much time in my own head as it is.

the main problem i have used suppression to deal with most of my issues and just getting overwhelmed.
It's not about spending time in your head, it's about taking the time to actually listen to yourself. Simple breathing meditation. Just focus on emptying your head of all conscious thoughts and just listen and follow your thoughts back to their source. Once you understand why you are thinking/feeling about things, you will have the ability to decide to change or remove those thoughts and feelings as well.
 

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anyone had experience with any of the swap tests?

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my pcp put me on citalopram, but i stopped taking it. the place i go to offers one of the test, but don't think my insurance would cover it after one drug.
I think those tests can be helpful for determining which drugs you may be a high or low responder to, but I don't know how those work for mental health meds. I've heard of it for other kinds of meds though.
 

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You absolutely can achieve the results you want on your own much in the same way you can achieve the physical results you want in the gym without a personal trainer.

A personal trainer certainly helps get you started especially if you don’t know where to start, and gives you the work you need to be doing outside your sessions to meet your goals. A good therapist is the same way, go in knowing what issues you are trying to solve, do a shit load of work outside of your sessions, talk about progress/setbacks to stay on task. Improve to the point you no longer need a trainer.

Starting is often the hardest part for lots of people, but it is worth starting. I recommend anything that makes starting less overwhelming.

Depression is a real motherfucker. For me it was like being in a deep hole, and the worst part was there was a ladder in the hole with me. All I had to do was start climbing and eventually I would get out. Every day for awhile was “the hole isn’t the end of the world, I’ll start climbing tomorrow”, then tomorrow would come and I’d feel worse for not starting. Therapy isn’t magic, but it’s starting the climb. Stack up all the wins you can imo.
I think you make a good analogy here. And I'm glad it was helpful for you. I know some find it helpful and dont dispute that.

I made my comment in the context of a person who has tried more than one therapist and found them not helpful, but is being met with a string of "try a different one!" suggestions. I found that pattern frustrating, so I responded.

Many of us have tried it and found it not useful for ourselves, seen it be not useful for others in our lives, but the pro-therapy side always come back to "no just find a different therapist". I'm just saying "therapy is not useful for you, stop trying that and find something else" should be an option on the table.
 
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Koushirou Koushirou hasn’t posted here in like 6 weeks. Fuckin a boys, another broken female cured by our presence in their life. Batting 1000, knew we could fix her.

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Koushirou Koushirou hasn’t posted here in like 6 weeks. Fuckin a boys, another broken female cured by our presence in their life. Batting 1000
Fret not; I'm still plenty broken. Still not even a single job interview and only like 3 weeks of unemployment payments left, so my stress level is kind of through the roof. However, I will just say I had what I can only describe as a magical day a couple weeks ago and might just get to have one, maybe two, more next week, which has certainly helped.
 

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Fret not; I'm still plenty broken. Still not even a single job interview and only like 3 weeks of unemployment payments left, so my stress level is kind of through the roof. However, I will just say I had what I can only describe as a magical day a couple weeks ago and might just get to have one, maybe two, more next week, which has certainly helped.

Aww shit, she got stretched out 6 ways from Sunday.

Fuck it, who needs to work when you got a sugar daddy!