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Lanx

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Strangely enough the only sudden issues I've had with PCs I've built over the last 15 years are dying hard drives. Usually every five years.

With the nutty prices of buying new I've been looking at Facebook marketplace and there's a decent amount of full builds that if I picked them apart the RAM alone is worth buying their entire machine.
you are actively cooling your HD's, yes?
 

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SSDs might get cheaper next year. Typically, I'm against buying Chinese stuff, but with the way memory cartel is scheming to screw retail customers, I'm really hoping that under cut that bastards.
 

Lanx

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SSDs might get cheaper next year. Typically, I'm against buying Chinese stuff, but with the way memory cartel is scheming to screw retail customers, I'm really hoping that under cut that bastards.

yea if we dont mske exception for china memory we will be fucked

mini pcs are increasingly getting marketshare

Intel N100 mini PCs (brands like Beelink, TRIGKEY, GMKtec, Minisforum, or white-label units from AliExpress/Amazon) do indeed ship with generic, lesser-known, or budget Chinese RAM brands installed out of the box (e.g., AZW, KingFast, CXMT/ChangXin Memory Technologies, JuHor, Shenzhen Longsys/Lander, or Goldkey).

and b/c the nature of these pcs is to share mem (cuz graphics), this is how china can sell whole computers cheaply

so while gddr 6/7 is still being used for nvidia/amd, china can still ship out pc's w/ china memory, you know who buys out gaming pc's? internet cafes, you can game the whole day and into the night for like 10bucks renting out a pc w/ a 4090

you can even rent out a "gaming coach" and if you ask her, she'll even dance for you


these are not your lulz 2001 internet cafes

also, iphone is less than 20% marketshare in china, the rest, huawai, xiami, oppo, make up the rest of the market, and they all use china mobile ram

theyre already doing server ram (ecc, etc) and are working on hbm, which is basically ai ram (this is ram stacked vertically for the gpu)

not letting china export this ram, is basically telling china they have a cheap infinate access to ram that we do not have
 
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Malakriss

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Half of the hardware bought this year is sitting in warehouses waiting for the datacenters they will be installed in to actually be built. Hundreds of billions are being spent with no sign of revenue streams that would generate a profit for a single year, let alone recoup all of the investment leading up to that point.

I have no issues with the people and companies taking advantage of this stupidity, only that the idiots grew to this level and everyone pretends it is a normal cycle of "growth" and recession.