Desktop Computers

Soriak_sl

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16 gigs ram? Overkill, but its cheap so whatever...
Is it, really? I just have a couple tabs open in Chrome (200-600MB per tab -- wtf, by the way?) and an open window of eclipse, powerpoint, R Studio, and texmaker. All of that uses 7GB of RAM with another 8GB on standby. That leaves 1GB free. I'm not saying that I'd have much lower performance with 8GB RAM (I have 2x 8GB sticks), but the fact that most of it get uses suggests that it's not completely useless.
 

mkopec

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8 Gigs of is the current sweet spot - anything higher offers no benefit for gaming/general desktop.

Is there a case for more than 8GB of RAM? Sure there is, but the bang for the buck trails off. The time when more than 8GB of RAM becomes useful and starts paying for itself is when you're running a number of resource-heavy applications simultaneously especially image or video processing, CAD, or 3D modelling. But like I said its cheap. So if you have the cash go for it. But if your tight on budget I would put that $$ to other uses like a SSD or a better video card.
 

Joeboo

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RAM is also stupid expensive right now. I bought 32GB of 1866mhz G.skill RAM in November '12 for $160. You can only get 16GB for that same price now.
 

mkopec

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Also dont forget that looking at your monitor and seeing that "OMG I only have 1gig left" is a bit misleading because Windows does some funky shit with ram. Like pre-loading crap, even leaving programs in the cache when you close them.

When people look at the Task Manager, and they see the figure for "Cached" compared to the number of "Free", people assume that only very little of their memory is available for the applications they are about to launch. What they forget is that the Cache filled by SuperFetch and the standard caching mechanism runs on a lower priority; in other words, memory requests by applications will always supersede SuperFetch.
 

jeydax

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My good dudes and bros. I'm moving in with my fiance soon (yeah, yeah) and buying myself a new desk. I'd like to keep the cost of the desk itself around $200. If you have suggestions on that (honestly I'm just thinking about getting an Ikea Galant, hard to argue with those) great, please pass them my way. I have just over 62" of space lengths-wise for the desk (keep in mind I have 3 monitors too - 23" - 24" - 21").

However, my main question is: What are some little odds and ends type products that you guys think are must haves for a desktop? I'm likely going to keep my computer on the floor so if you have external usb connectors or cable managment systems or powerplug-ins that go on the desk, or any other suggestions please throw them at me. I've always just had my monitor, keyboard, headset and mouse... I'd like to drop a little more cash into having a more organized desk this time. I'm talking about things like these items:

Amazon.com : Anker? USB 3.0 9-Port Hub + 5V 2.1A Smart Charging Port with 12V 5A Power Adapter [VIA VL812-B2 Chipset and updated Firmware 9081] : Network Usb Hubs : Computers Accessories
Amazon.com : Quirky Cordies Desktop Cable Management for power cords and charging accessory cables (White) : Computer Cables : Electronics
Amazon.com : Belkin In-Desk USB Hub 3-Inch (F5U402-03IN-KIT) : Network Hubs : Electronics

Crap like that. Anyone got suggestions?

Also side question do any of you use a wireless mouse? I've switched to a wireless keyboard but I'm paranoid about the mouse for some reason...
 

jeydax

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Are you going to wall mount your monitors or have them all on the desk on theirs stands?
I could do a wall mount, arm mounts connected to the desk or just have them on the desk. I've never done mounts but I'm leaning towards an arm or wall mount.
 

Joeboo

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I recently did a 2-arm mount for my 2 27" monitors, I wish I would have done it YEARS ago. Basically doubled my available desk space and just looks so much cleaner. I went with the kind that just clamps to the desk and it works great.

I have the 2-monitor version of this stand:
Amazon.com: Triple LCD Monitor Stand Desktop Clamp Holds up to 24 Widescreen Displays: Office Products

Highly recommend it, even being as cheap as they are they are REALLY good quality. Someone on this forum originally linked to those, and they are amazing.
 

jeydax

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I might eventually get a 27" monitor, I assume those guys make an option for bigger monitors? I suppose I could look that up myself on the Amazons.
 

Joeboo

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jeydax

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I'm probably just going to get the 24" x 3 monitor one they have and make it work. Any suggestions for the other shit?
 

Joeboo

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While not really a little odd or end, I couldn't recommend one of these more:
CyberPower Intelligent LCD Series GreenPower UPS CP1000AVRLCD UPS - Newegg.com

5 battery backup outlets, 4 just surge protected outlets. I plug my PC, 2 monitors and external HDs into the battery backup, and then piddly unimportant shit like my speakers into just the surge protected outlets. The monitoring software it comes with is nice, gives you a current reading of your used wattage, estimate of how long the battery would hold up at that usage, and also a log of any power-related events.
 

jeydax

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Forgot to mention I need a wireless headset recommendation too. Doing my own homework on that but if you guys have input, that is always welcome.
 

jeydax

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Funny thing I was JUST looking at those cable management systems. I think I'm to buy a cable raceway or something but I'll grab one of those anyways.

I am going to get a stool for my computer, that computer holder isn't big enough for my Corsair 540 case.
 

Mist

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Dude, you gotta put your computer ontop of the desk, profiling at eye level.
 

mkopec

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Fuck that, my shits hidden away on the floor in the corner where no one can see it. My desk just has keyboard and flat screen. Other computer is in the family roomm again, on the floor hidden away with the flat screen on a lamp table with the key board in the corner of the room. When I pay games I just tilt my big ass leather comfy chair to face it using my lap for the keyboard and the armrest for the mouse.

Its also great for the kids to look up shit and play as well. also it lets us monitor WTF they are getting into on the internet, youtube.
 

jeydax

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Dude, you gotta put your computer ontop of the desk, profiling at eye level.
Huh? I honestly don't give a shit what the computer looks like, nor do I want any LED lights blaring in my face. My computer sits below my desk on a stool. I really don't want or need the computer on my desk.
 

Void

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My computer is finally acting up to the point where I feel justified in buying a new one. Putting together a build, which I will submit for your approval of course, but is there any reason not to buy faster memory if the cost is about the same? I realize Intel only really supports up to 1600 (I'm going to buy an i5-4670k processor), but that's sort of a technicality. The higher speeds probably won't show any appreciable benefit either, but if they are the same price, is there a reason not to? I don't plan to overclock necessarily, but want to be open to the possibility, hence the k processor. Will the memory speed matter for that?
 

Void

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Preliminary post before I leave work. I have an SSD, regular HD, and Win 8.1 already. Any critiques would be greatly appreciated.

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant/Benchmarks

CPU:Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler($33.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($122.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory($157.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case:Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply($87.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive:LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer($41.99 @ Newegg)
Total:$1004.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-19 19:24 EST-0500)