Destiny: Rise of Iron 9.20.16

a_skeleton_03

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Is anyone at Bungie doing a cost-benefit analysis on things like the faction vendors? I am thinking specifically of the Queen faction vendor seeing as the weapons she sells, while somewhat attractive at level 20, are almost guaranteed to be useless. The sheer quantity of content you have to do in order to reach that rep value means that unless the RNG gods have been extremely cruel to you and unless you have only done Queen stuff and nothing else that entire time you will have much nicer items by the time you can get these.

I could maybe see the attraction if these were for appearance slot... but there is no appearance slot.
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Yeah I don't think they have thought through things like that. All the other factions so far have been usable but the decisions with the Queen's Wrath are quite odd for sure. The reputation itself is essentially worthless. The gear you got from doing the kill orders wasn't bad but it was just welfare legendaries.
 

Qhue

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Doubly so when you consider the bounties that require you have Rank 2 already in order to do them (needing the Class item plus the shader and symbol). Is anyone really so keen after getting Rank 2 to go and do PVP-only bounties to grind towards a shader with a slightly darker purple?
 

Heylel

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I think the subtext with Queen's Wrath is that we'll be seeing this faction again. It isn't going to be a "one and done" kind of thing, otherwise that just makes no sense. Hopefully next time the items will be a little nicer.

I'm using the QG chest piece and it's actually pretty good. I'm sure I could get something better out of nightfall, but I'm still a teensy bit too low for that.
 

Vorph

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The Queen chest and helm are perfect because you can keep doing it until you get the primary+special ammo you want on the chest, as well as melee attack speed/grenade throw distance/whatever you like and more super energy from non-guardian kills (for those unaware, this means everything in PVE) on the helm. Without spending 185 marks on shit that won't even be optimized for your setup.

Nightfall this week is a joke. Interceptors and safe spots trivialize the whole thing.
 

Lost Virtue

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The Queen chest and helm are perfect because you can keep doing it until you get the primary+special ammo you want on the chest, as well as melee attack speed/grenade throw distance/whatever you like and more super energy from non-guardian kills (for those unaware, this means everything in PVE) on the helm. Without spending 185 marks on shit that won't even be optimized for your setup.

Nightfall this week is a joke. Interceptors and safe spots trivialize the whole thing.
Interceptors? And what safe spots?
 

Vlett

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I think I got on right before wagon logged for class, he sent me an invite but his party filled before my strike was done. You guys need to use playstation chat so we can talk with more than 3 in a channel at once. =P
 

Vorph

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Interceptors? And what safe spots?
From the start, run past everything until you get to the darkness zone. Kill the colossus and the psions will retreat outside, and it's safe to grab your vehicles.

Interceptors are the rocket launcher vehicles. Use them to kill off all the shit around the first three mini-bosses, as well as the guards themselves. Zero risk. If someone has an Ice Breaker, have them snipe the centurions and help out with the psions and mini-bosses.

For the tank, use an arc sniper from anywhere safe(ish) before the drop-down spot. Takes like a dozen shots to kill the tank (aim at the four engines). When it dies, ignore all the leftover trash and just hop on your sparrow.

Getting to the final boss from there is easy, outside the ship is low level stuff, and inside is just a room of normal trash. For the boss, run in the room, kill the two legionaries at the back and then sprint along the right wall all the way to the back while the boss is coming out the doors. You want to jump over some boxes at the end of the room and end up in a small area completely inaccessible to the adds. Now jump and rocket+grenade the boss until he moves to the other end. This next part is very important, especially if you're solo. Kill ***ALL BUT ONE*** of the adds that spawn near you from your safe spot and then make a run for the entrance side and shoot him with arc rockets/sniper as fast as you can to get him to move back. From there it's all over, he'll actually just walk right over to you to be shot in the face and he can't actually hit you back.

Shitty legendary shotgun and a Hardlight (also garbage when you have a Suros Regime already) so far today, on the last run now. Friend got Hardlight and a dupe Knucklehead Radar... yay. Another week without a fucking Ice Breaker is really going to suck.
 

Heylel

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Anyone have a Red Death? I've yet to acquire an exotic weapon but for some reason I really like the look of that one.
 

Vorph

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Dupe Apotheosis Veil for me, and a useless No Backup Plans for my friend. Another week without the one item that completely changes the game, awesome. Unless of course Xur sells it, which will mean everyone has one, and then it will almost certainly get nerfed once it starts being used on that sort of scale.

Red Death is the best of the pulse rifles, but that's not really saying a whole lot. You're better off with the best legendary you can find anyway. Suros Regime is just about the only primary weapon worth using up your exotic for. Maybe Hawkmoon too, but I haven't found one of those yet.
 

a_skeleton_03

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We got all legendaries or strange coins on our nightfall run. I of course got a dupe of a weapon I already had maxed out and the one I got didn't have better mods so grats on some energy.
 

Vorph

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Legendary (or exotic you won't ever equip) ends up being the worst reward, since it won't break down into anywhere near 10 ascendants.
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Guess coins are pretty bad too, if you're getting 27 a week from the 28 heroic weekly.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Got my chatterwhite finally tonight.

We got zero other loot from Atheon himself but shards and energy. We are going to try hard mode on Monday.
 

spronk

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i thought if you did normal you can't get loot from hard mode? or did i read that wrong

i got ass raped soloing nightfall this week, no problems up until tank and then he just 1 shot me twice (warlock self rez) in a quick row, from like a million miles away. gonna have to do it on non nightfall to figure out the good spots. not sure though how much i wanna keep playing, i got shadows of mordor and that looks really fun
 

Vorph

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i got ass raped soloing nightfall this week, no problems up until tank and then he just 1 shot me twice (warlock self rez) in a quick row, from like a million miles away. gonna have to do it on non nightfall to figure out the good spots.
Pretty much anywhere is a good spot as long as you don't jump down into his arena. The key is not staying in any one spot for very long. The splash damage radius on his rocket is ridiculously large. There's at least several seconds between shots, so you have plenty of time to break an engine after each. Assuming you have an arc sniper rifle of course.
 

Erie_sl

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Bleh, get exotic weapon missive and the 2 choices were bad juju/super good advice... and already have bad juju. /sigh