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Captain Suave

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There's no build that can blast HBaal in 5 seconds that struggles to kill Fallen. Like do you even play this game?
I'm sure he means pure firewall sorcs and such, at least without conviction. Though if you make a build like that you obviously know what you're getting into.
 

Mrniceguy

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I'm sure he means pure firewall sorcs and such, at least without conviction. Though if you make a build like that you obviously know what you're getting into.

If you're killing Hell Baal in 5 seconds you're well beyond the point when a merc can 1 shot a fallen on P1. Even if you're talking about the the Sorc itself killing you can just skip 1 synergy do Blizz/Nova secondary.
 
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Khane

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If you're killing Hell Baal in 5 seconds you're well beyond the point when a merc can 1 shot a fallen on P1. Even if you're talking about the the Sorc itself killing you can just skip 1 synergy do Blizz/Nova secondary.

You're being purposefully obtuse. It was an example of immunities being a stupid mechanic. Are you disagreeing?
 
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Mrniceguy

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Fixed that for you as someone that recently played through this

I've done SSF HC P8 for ever class. Every class can be full clear every area with every build. The only exception is uber trist but respec tokens exist.

You make a choice do you wanna have max DMG or 75% damage+25% dmg and be able to kill everything.
 
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Khane

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Yep, being purposefully obtuse. Probably also sucks at the game. Clearly doesn't have a very good understanding of it.
 
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Lumi

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There's no build that can blast HBaal in 5 seconds that struggles to kill Fallen. Like do you even play this game?
He's obviously exaggerating dumbass lol. He isn't that far off from the truth tho. Just the idea that you can kill one of the main baddies of the entire game but can't kill a peon in comparrison is pretty dumb. That was his point.
 
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Mrniceguy

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He's obviously exaggerating dumbass lol. He isn't that far off from the truth though.

He insanely far off though.

Hell Baal has 500k hp and has 50% res to everything but magic.

A Hell Doom Knight in CS has 5k-8k hp. Even with fire builds you still kill 25 of them in the time it would take to kill Baal.
 
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He insanely far off though.

Hell Baal has 500k hp and has 50% res to everything but magic.

A Hell Doom Knight in CS has 5k-8k hp. Even with fire builds you still kill 25 off them in the time it would take to kill Baal.
Are you still taking his post literally and not as an exaggeration to make a point? FFS
 
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Mrniceguy

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Are you still taking his post literally and not as an exaggeration to make a point? FFS

No. I'm pointing out how insane of an exaggeration it is because that's why i disagree with his "point".

It's just crybaby newb argument. Maybe get good instead of getting owned by a fallen in a 23 year old game.
 
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Khane

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Right, you're one of the 3 people who play the game who think immunities aren't stupid. We get it.

Either that or you just wanted to wag your dick about how your mercenary can kill stuff for you and act like the rest of us don't know that.

Which I bet you think is a swell gameplay mechanism as well. Sitting around with your dick in your hand waiting for your mercenary to kill shit.
 
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Mrniceguy

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Guess Senpaisomething is right. Most the people that play this game think anything more then 2 buttons one shoting everything is too difficult.

I just don't think it's that hard to press Fireball, Static, Teleport and Blizzard. Rather then just Fireball, Static and Teleport. It's weird that you guys favor removing a mechanic that would lower button presses and build diversity. Cause you know Fallens are too OP or something.
 
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Chris

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Guess Senpaisomething is right. Most the people that play this game think anything more then 2 buttons one shoting everything is too difficult.

I just don't think it's that hard to press Fireball, Static, Teleport and Blizzard. Rather then just Fireball, Static and Teleport. It's weird that you guys favor removing a mechanic that would lower button presses and build diversity. Cause you know Fallens are too OP or something.
Autism?
 
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Khane

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Senpai needs to follow suit and make immunities easier to break in PD2 as well, now that you mention it.
 
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Mrniceguy

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Senpai has done the opposite. Nerfed Conviction, Lower Res, Amp. Nerfed 1 point wonders like Zerk that help kill immunes. Nerfed Builds like Hammerdin that don't have immunity issues. Lowered the early damage of skills but buffed scaling, which nerfs hybrid damage builds.
 
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Chris

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Senpai has done the opposite. Nerfed Conviction, Lower Res, Amp. Nerfed 1 point wonders like Zerk that help kill immunes. Nerfed Builds like Hammerdin that don't have immunity issues. Lowered the early damage of skills but buffed scaling, which nerfs hybrid damage builds.
Only being able to kill a fraction of the enemies in the game sounds amazing!
 
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Mrniceguy

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Only being able to kill a fraction of the enemies in the game sounds amazing!

A Fire immune Fallen approaches
Should you
A) Cast Fireball on it
B) Switch to Frozen Orb and 1 shot it
C) Run past it or go to a different area
D) Cry on some forums that Blizzard will never read about how it's a bad game mechanic

Lotta fans of D in this thread
 

Chris

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A Fire immune Fallen approaches
Should you
A) Cast Fireball on it
B) Switch to Frozen Orb and 1 shot it
C) Run past it or go to a different area
D) Cry on some forums that Blizzard will never read about how it's a bad game mechanic

Lotta fans of D in this thread
OK. Now do River of Flame and Chaos Sanctuary. Are one shotting the fire immune fucks there with Frozen Orb? Can we run past it?

The guy wasn't literally saying that Act 1 Hell Fallen Ones were a problem. It was a single hyperbolic example. Fuck you.
 
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Mrniceguy

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OK. Now do River of Flame and Chaos Sanctuary. Are one shotting the fire immune fucks there with Frozen Orb? Can we run past it?

The guy wasn't literally saying that Act 1 Hell Fallen Ones were a problem. It was a single hyperbolic example. Fuck you.

No then it's killing a pack with 2-4 casts. Should everything just die in 1 cast of the same ability? would that really make the game more balanced or fun?

Wasn't just being hyperbolic was being delusional. If you take away the hyperbole the point is still just so fucking dumb.