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Well, they took what could have easily been a great mystery/mind fuck of the season and probably ruined it.
Chibnall said in some interview recently that Obama-Doctor is legitimately The Doctor, and not some parallel universe type thing or trickery. So it's 100% expected that he's going to somehow shove this one into canon somewhere and expect all of us to just roll with it.
I fully expect him to now do some bullshittery and probably say that durr hurr Jodie-Doctor is actually the Nth Doctor in this new set of regenerations and then introduce us to all the minority, lesbian and transgender Doctors of this set that Jodie-Doctor forgot all about because "plot".
I say that because as bad as THAT sounds, he wouldn't dare try to shove this Obama-Doctor in between previous classic regenerations, would he? Pull another War Doctor type move, but without any of the finesse? Please, for the love of all that is holy, don't tell me that is where Chibnall is going with this....
Chibnall said in some interview recently that Obama-Doctor is legitimately The Doctor, and not some parallel universe type thing or trickery. So it's 100% expected that he's going to somehow shove this one into canon somewhere and expect all of us to just roll with it.
I fully expect him to now do some bullshittery and probably say that durr hurr Jodie-Doctor is actually the Nth Doctor in this new set of regenerations and then introduce us to all the minority, lesbian and transgender Doctors of this set that Jodie-Doctor forgot all about because "plot".
I say that because as bad as THAT sounds, he wouldn't dare try to shove this Obama-Doctor in between previous classic regenerations, would he? Pull another War Doctor type move, but without any of the finesse? Please, for the love of all that is holy, don't tell me that is where Chibnall is going with this....
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She has to be 0th or -1st etc Doctor given the TARDIS interior, general state of Gallifreyan civilization, lack of sonic, etc. I'm betting that the 1st Doctor got his mind wiped and thus believes it was his first regeneration into the 2nd when in fact it may have been his Nth.
It does gel with Brain of Morbius where we see a bunch of other 'Doctors' that we don't recognize.
It does gel with Brain of Morbius where we see a bunch of other 'Doctors' that we don't recognize.
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Chris
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The fan theory at the moment is "series 6b" which is the time between the 2nd Doctor being sentenced to regeneration by the Time Lords (end of series 6) and falling out of the TARDIS as the 3rd Doctor (start of series 7).
You'd assume those two events happen right after each other, but it's been used to explain why the 2nd Doctor kept showing up looking older and older in several multi doctor specials.
I believe it's consistent with the old TARDIS console and lack of Sonic Screwdriver. Extra regeneration is fine as Tennant used up two when they had that weird hand metacrisis thing, so just retcon that to not be counted.
I just don't think they can explain it to a normie audience without recasting 2nd and 3rd Doctor, but they had Reece Shearsmith play the 2nd Doctor in that docudrama they got the 1st Doctor recast from, so maybe they just get John Pertwee's son or something. I feel like it's too ambitious and too deep lore for the current state of the show.
Her being the 0th Doctor is more obvious for woke politics but isn't consistent with the old lore, or even Clara showing the 1st Doctor which TARDIS to steal.
I actually think that they won't explain it at all and it's 50/50 she shows up again. After all apparently Captain Jack isn't back this season again for some random reason, I guess his scenes were reshoots and the companions were meant to be captured by the Judoon or something.
You'd assume those two events happen right after each other, but it's been used to explain why the 2nd Doctor kept showing up looking older and older in several multi doctor specials.
I believe it's consistent with the old TARDIS console and lack of Sonic Screwdriver. Extra regeneration is fine as Tennant used up two when they had that weird hand metacrisis thing, so just retcon that to not be counted.
I just don't think they can explain it to a normie audience without recasting 2nd and 3rd Doctor, but they had Reece Shearsmith play the 2nd Doctor in that docudrama they got the 1st Doctor recast from, so maybe they just get John Pertwee's son or something. I feel like it's too ambitious and too deep lore for the current state of the show.
Her being the 0th Doctor is more obvious for woke politics but isn't consistent with the old lore, or even Clara showing the 1st Doctor which TARDIS to steal.
I actually think that they won't explain it at all and it's 50/50 she shows up again. After all apparently Captain Jack isn't back this season again for some random reason, I guess his scenes were reshoots and the companions were meant to be captured by the Judoon or something.
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Doctor Who's revision has been so hit-and-miss.
I liked David Tennet. But, honestly, Tom Baker will always be my favorite Doctor Who. Yeah-- the episodes are cheesy with regard to sets and special effects most of the time. They occasionally knock it out of the park with good sci-fi writing. A little too much yelling in the old series. I am not sure if that is a Brit thing or not.
If you want some good Doctor Who -- go to Amazon or Pluto TV. Check out "The Talons of Weng Chiang," "The Pyramids of Mars" or "The Horror of Fang Rock."
In terms of story telling and characters, blows away the new ones.
In terms of cheesiness, well, what can you do?
I liked David Tennet. But, honestly, Tom Baker will always be my favorite Doctor Who. Yeah-- the episodes are cheesy with regard to sets and special effects most of the time. They occasionally knock it out of the park with good sci-fi writing. A little too much yelling in the old series. I am not sure if that is a Brit thing or not.
If you want some good Doctor Who -- go to Amazon or Pluto TV. Check out "The Talons of Weng Chiang," "The Pyramids of Mars" or "The Horror of Fang Rock."
In terms of story telling and characters, blows away the new ones.
In terms of cheesiness, well, what can you do?
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Chukzombi
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the rumors swirling around are that Tennet was to reprise his role as the depowered hand Doctor (who ran off with Rose) and woke doctor was gonna chew his ass out for toxic masculinity or some such. its a rumor, but perhaps that was the part they reshot and inserted Capt Jack at the last minute .
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Chris
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No.
A black women showed up in the most boring episode ever made saying she was The Doctor.
The Master destroyed Gallifrey off screen.
The Cybermen were defeated offscreen but there was one left who got a mcguffin to revive them all.
Save yourself the 4 hours you needed to learn those things at the end of the shit episodes they were in. Don't watch the other episodes which were preachy filler.
The three plots are maybe going to be resolved next week in the finale. They are probably going for The Doctor originally being a Black Woman of Colour and Time Lords being Human Refugees.
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Chukzombi
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the only warning when Capt Jack showed up should be.
TRY NOT TO BECOME A GIANT HEAD SWIMMING IN A FISH BOWL!
Chukzombi
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was that in the finale? how do you still stand this shit? is it a British thing? you gotta watch Who on the telly and drink tea and eat jammie dodgers?
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I haven't see any episode in the season except the black doctor one and the finale two parter. My wife was suffering the whole time, she was not inspired by womyn doctors.
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Qhue
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Well that certainly did upend everything we knew about Gallifrey and the Time Lords in general...
The Daleks have to be suuuuuper pissed that it was the Cybermen that got to a destroyed Gallifrey ahead of them. Even more so if the Master saved some of his CyberLords when he escaped.
The big chunk of redacted space in the Matrix where the Doctor's pre-first-doctor work should be gives us a big mystery as does the whole question of where the fuck she came from in the first place.
The Daleks have to be suuuuuper pissed that it was the Cybermen that got to a destroyed Gallifrey ahead of them. Even more so if the Master saved some of his CyberLords when he escaped.
The big chunk of redacted space in the Matrix where the Doctor's pre-first-doctor work should be gives us a big mystery as does the whole question of where the fuck she came from in the first place.