DOTA 2

Jackie Treehorn

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I haven't played a real (that is to say ranked) DOTA game in about a year, but goddamn, people were/are actually playing beastmaster to the extent where he's getting nerfs? Neat.
 

Cybsled

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He was popular in pro games because of tower push strats (necro + boars) and his roar going through BKB.
 

Intrinsic

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And the last patch changed the damage type or armor type of the creeps, whatever. I can never keep that shit straight. So his boar did more damage and you could basically 5 minutes level 6 him in the jungle and then go murderface. And with all the nerfs to other hero vision I think his hawks are still way valuable. Which I also think is a great reason for ET to be back in the meta.
 

Zaphid

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Also the quests this time suck a donkey dick for supports. A few of the WR questline kinda do, but yesterday I had to retard my way through a game just to get sub 36 min bloodstone, then we stomped them rather easily. Well, at least I picked Ogre for that, but I have no idea how many more I can pull off while supporting.
 

cyrusreij

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Also the quests this time suck a donkey dick for supports. A few of the WR questline kinda do, but yesterday I had to retard my way through a game just to get sub 36 min bloodstone, then we stomped them rather easily. Well, at least I picked Ogre for that, but I have no idea how many more I can pull off while supporting.
I managed to get it in 24 as Leshrac, then lost :\ Not a fun quest.
 

Gravel

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With the compendium if you win one with 3 stars can you go back and re-win at 2 stars for the extra points?
Wait, I thought if you got the 3 stars, you got all the points? It's if you get 1 or 2 stars, you can go back and get the others for extra.



The new ranked is really weird. I've won 5 of 6 so far, but it seems like each time the MMR of my teammates/opponents go down. It's gotten to the point where the game I played last night was a complete dumpstering. We didn't lose a single T1 until just about 2 minutes before the game ended.
 

Intrinsic

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What are your stats from the game? I think for calibration it uses a bunch of different metrics like K/D/A, GPM, XPM, etc and not purely W/L. So if you are a support but only average 200 gpm and 5 LH a game you could are average MMR stay the same or go down. Alternatively if you lose a game as hard carry but have 800 GPM and go like 20 / 2 / 10 it may go up.

My only evidence of this is watching people like PPD, Ways, and a couple of different Russian MMR booster types go through calibration. Reddit may have more info.
 

Gravel

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I'm at work so I can't check Yasp, but I'm always top 3 in LH (about the only thing I can count on in a game is that I'll out farm everyone, even on support; I have a Jakiro game where I think I was #2 in LH). I'll admit I'm terrible about team fights, but it's usually a 2:1 or 3:1 KD, and 3:1 or 4:1 KDA.

I wonder if there's some kind of threshold on GPM/XPM that the calibration is looking at to rank you. Like say 200-250 GPM is 1000 MMR, 251-300 GPM is 1500, 301-350 is 2000, etc.

Last 7 games, descending order
Viper (W) - 5/2/8, 396 GPM, 444 XPM, 129 LH (#1)
Venomancer (W) - 6/10/19, 435 GPM, 406 XPM, 255 LH (#3)
Jakiro (W) - 4/6/22, 346 GPM, 385 XPM, 171 LH (#9) (apparently I was wrong about my LH this game)
Gyrocopter (W) - 8/7/10, 552 GPM, 658 XPM, 317 LH (#1)
Gyrocopter (W) - 4/9/18, 516 GPM, 580 XPM, 327 LH (#2)
Troll (L) - 2/14/14, 342 GPM, 383 XPM, 125 LH (#2)
Troll (W) - 8/4/12, 603 GPM, 615 XPM, 265 LH (#1)

So apparently, I suck shit at fighting. I guess I should work on that.
 

Zaphid

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Wait, I thought if you got the 3 stars, you got all the points? It's if you get 1 or 2 stars, you can go back and get the others for extra.



The new ranked is really weird. I've won 5 of 6 so far, but it seems like each time the MMR of my teammates/opponents go down. It's gotten to the point where the game I played last night was a complete dumpstering. We didn't lose a single T1 until just about 2 minutes before the game ended.
My bad, you get all the points for 3 stars.

I had several people asking about whether they can redo the quests if they didn't get all 3 stars so I misread it
 

Zaphid

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It's pretty obvious that he is shaking off rust and preparing for the headhunt that will come once rosters unlock after TI. Maybe if somebody is really desperate after Manila, but I don't he is that great right now. They might make a deep run through the qualifiers, but it's still Bamboe, bone7, CWM and Sing, get real.
 

Luthair

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It's pretty obvious that he is shaking off rust and preparing for the headhunt that will come once rosters unlock after TI. Maybe if somebody is really desperate after Manila, but I don't he is that great right now. They might make a deep run through the qualifiers, but it's still Bamboe, bone7, CWM and Sing, get real.
I don't expect them to be taking to Secret or EG, but they definitely could get to be point where they compete with the current also rans (Na`Vi, VP, etc.)
 

Xeldar

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If Fear's arm is being bothersome and is being an impediment, I expect Zai to be EG's 4 and Fear to coach.
 

Gravel

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I watched a Kaipi match a week or so ago and they were fucking terrible. Maybe they need time to gel together, but I wasn't impressed.
 

Zaphid

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I don't expect them to be taking to Secret or EG, but they definitely could get to be point where they compete with the current also rans (Na`Vi, VP, etc.)
Yes, but his value will skyrocket once the shuffle starts, you don't make money by beating t2 teams, you make it by bulldozing through a TI.