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Julian The Apostate

Julian The Apostate

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Played my first 6 games on all pick recently. Stuck with CM after feeding like hell on a warlock my first game and feel like I did pretty well with her. Had a 20-3 and something like a 15-4 game. I did pretty well at keeping wards up and rotating a lot for ganks works great against the level of people I'm playing ATM. Only level 3 right now so I don't have ranked unlocked yet so no idea what my rating is. If any other noobs want to play together feel free to hit me up on the rerolled guild. Same name as here without spaces.
 
Dandai

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I have to admit, I almost always resign myself to a loss when we've got two lanes down and no more throne towers. It annoys me when the guys I play with insist on defending and then the 1 or 2 pubs that are with us get picked off while pushing back a lane and we lose in 10 minutes instead of 2 (had we not defended).

But I might've just been converted to their way of thinking.

I just had the most epic comeback game. We had an axe and dark seer who were doing some gay shit bot lane (we were dire) and got as many kills as they gave (they gave first blood because the other team sent 4 bot because the combo was so obvious, I guess?). Anyway, they started doing really bad when mid (Invoker) started coming to help radiant's bot lane. I was legion commander, jungling and coming out to gank every other minute or so.

Nobody spoke english on the team, or at least they didn't indicate that they wanted to communicate for the first ~40 minutes of the game. This made it really hard to coordinate as pings were often not indicative of urgency or when to attack so they quickly became ignored. What's worse is we had an omni who insisted on repelling me every time I Duel'd someone and it stopped the duel. I had 0 bonus damage from duels until ~40 minutes in the game.

Anyway, the other team was doing whatever the fuck they wanted. Axe would get picked off because they were warding the jungle and he was perma-oblivious, Dark seer would rush in to help his buddy and suddenly it's 3 v 5 at the base tower. That's how we lost the first two lanes.

Then our weaver caught them roshing after an unsuccessful push on our last lane and we wiped the team. This was the turning point. This was ~50 minutes in and weaver and I were 6 slotted (well, I was at least; not 100% sure about him). I finally had SOME duel damage, but less than 100. We managed to get the mid melee rax and backed up. I ended up dying but my team were all up by then and they defended without incident.

We were a little more emboldened now and started pushing mid up beyond the river. A couple of them over extended and we killed them after their buddies stopped pursuit. The rest, as they say, is history. We ended up winning with megas, and my epeen grew at least an inch.

tl;dr: Dota is a fickle mistress; sure she'll make you rage, but every now and then she'll make you feel unfuckingtouchable.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/439524364
 
Dandain

Dandain

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The only peeve I have in games is when teams don't close it out when they can and farm far more of an advantage than they need. I don't mind staying in games most of the time, and the reasoning is where else are you going to practice making plays from behind if not during a successful defense when you're down. Playing from behind is a huge part of playing dota. Like a code of honor, I fight to the end in any game because I want my opponents to play the same way when I'm on the leading team. Its enjoyable to end games teamfighting, or putting silly kill totals on the board. Everyone wants to encave a few skulls when they finally get 6 slotted.
 
Nite1

Nite1

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On the flip side of that I get really frustrated with people who farm past their window to win. Played a game where they had an am and our best carry was a jug. He kept insisting on farming even making a comment "its ok am doesn't have anything" long story short he kept farming am came on line and wrecked us.... for what ever reason I handle people feeding early or screwing up royally over having a game won then just waiting to long to close it out
 
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Yeah early feed isn't TOO big of a problem as long as you correct it and get farm yourself. But the guys who don't realize their farm sucks and they're being heavily outfarmed and want to take the game to 50 minutes
 
Sulrn

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Dandain_sl said:
The only peeve I have in games is when teams don't close it out when they can and farm far more of an advantage than they need. I don't mind staying in games most of the time, and the reasoning is where else are you going to practice making plays from behind if not during a successful defense when you're down. Playing from behind is a huge part of playing dota. Like a code of honor, I fight to the end in any game because I want my opponents to play the same way when I'm on the leading team. Its enjoyable to end games teamfighting, or putting silly kill totals on the board. Everyone wants to encave a few skulls when they finally get 6 slotted.
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This may be the case, but I feel the need to call shenanigans on your almost always. I've watched you smoke/moonlight out enough times.:p
 
Dis

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Just finished training. I am afraid of playing because of the nightmare public games people constantly mention, that and being stuck in an hour game because of ineptitude. I have always loved DOTA and DOTA-esque type games though
 
Dandain

Dandain

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Sulrn_sl said:
This may be the case, but I feel the need to call shenanigans on your almost always. I've watched you smoke/moonlight out enough times.:p
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I play a lot of games, when the whole team decides its gone ultra sideways I don't block progress on letting the game be finished. And I don't stay in the fountain to be camped.
 
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Dis_sl said:
Just finished training. I am afraid of playing because of the nightmare public games people constantly mention, that and being stuck in an hour game because of ineptitude. I have always loved DOTA and DOTA-esque type games though
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harden the fuck up
 
Zaphid

Zaphid

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I think I went like 1-8 over the last 2 days, with games totally screwed from the draft - tide/naga/slardar trilane in ranked and getting FB'd due to naga being afk at the tower, then guys being geniuses and taking 5 melee heroes in random draft (I was first pick PA). The only game I won was offlane Weaver where Mirana/Alch/Shadow Shaman trilane couldn't kill me despite landing 2 max duration arrows in the first 8 minutes ... I think solo queue can't provoke any emotion in me.
 
Nite1

Nite1

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Solo que for me always seems to be 50-50 im either getting a fun close game or im playing with the people that fit every bad stereotype this game has to offer. Im not sure whats worse the guy screaming at everyone for sucking or the unintelligible gibbering of some foreigner who pings the shit out of you then dc's. That said every time I hit these stretchs I pick 3 new heroes to learn and mute everyone.
 
Sutekh

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Dis_sl said:
Just finished training. I am afraid of playing because of the nightmare public games people constantly mention, that and being stuck in an hour game because of ineptitude. I have always loved DOTA and DOTA-esque type games though
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For every 1 annoying game, there's 10 fun ones, ignore the people that complain constantly.
 
Jackie Treehorn

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Absolutely true. For all the people that bitch, horribly annoying games are pretty far and few between, in my experience. I mean, there are always some annoying people, but not of the variety that really ruin your game and piss you off. It does happen on occasion, but it's not the norm.
 
Delly

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There were a few, I think all or almost all Asian hosted streams. I always hated MLG(I think they used to?) when they had that lame shit.
 
Julian The Apostate

Julian The Apostate

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Question. For creep pulling as support when you want to get your carry farm, you stack 2-3 of the easy camp and pull when your creeps get near the T1 enemy tower, right? Then if you want to push you pull to one stack and push on the next wave.

I'm sure there are more advanced tactics but this is the basics?

Even if, at my level, my carry can't last hit for shit I want to start practicing this stuff.
 
Zaphid

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Pretty much, however usually you have to stay in lane to make sure your carry can actually farm by shooing away the other guys, so you need to weight your farm vs his. Pulling without stacking isn't recommended, because you end up with bigger creep wave that will push their tower much faster, however you can also pull another camp while the creeps are fighting the first and that should wipe the wave regardless of creeps spawned. It's a bit harder on dire and I generally don't recommend it on melee supports. On radiant, you just have to cut down a tree.

Some supports, namely Lina, can wipe a lot of trees so it's not such a hassle on dire.

If you attack the jungle creeps, you can even pull a third jungle camp, but that's pretty rare and mostly used by radiant trilanes.
 
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