Dota Underlords
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Chimney
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Globals are pretty much shaping the game it seems.
Getting 2/3 star global whatevers and being able to build around them has always been a top 3 for me.
I did face some dude that had 3 demon hunter globals and a 3 star terrorblade that just destroyed everyone by himself and I had a really strong warlock build with 3, 3 stars.
Still liking assassins too. They are good to start with since even on losing streaks they usually kill a few targets so you don't take a lot of damage and if you get 3, 2 stars early they just mow down.
Getting 2/3 star global whatevers and being able to build around them has always been a top 3 for me.
I did face some dude that had 3 demon hunter globals and a 3 star terrorblade that just destroyed everyone by himself and I had a really strong warlock build with 3, 3 stars.
Still liking assassins too. They are good to start with since even on losing streaks they usually kill a few targets so you don't take a lot of damage and if you get 3, 2 stars early they just mow down.
LiquidDeath
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New meta in the lower ranks is to get blood contract units and one other warlock, usually venomancer, early game to shit on everyone.
I'm rising through the ranks pretty steadily right now because lots of people build really strong early game and then fade in late game. I am usually mid to bottom until the late teens and then my money hoarding and selective unit picking pulls out and I end up top 3.
It is really a mistake to build the 9 rank alliances. They bonus they give over the 6 rank doesn't come close to matching the downside of having no defensive traits (assassins) or no offense (warriors). They really need to adjust the alliances and put in new units to help smooth alliance building.
I'm rising through the ranks pretty steadily right now because lots of people build really strong early game and then fade in late game. I am usually mid to bottom until the late teens and then my money hoarding and selective unit picking pulls out and I end up top 3.
It is really a mistake to build the 9 rank alliances. They bonus they give over the 6 rank doesn't come close to matching the downside of having no defensive traits (assassins) or no offense (warriors). They really need to adjust the alliances and put in new units to help smooth alliance building.
Intropy
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I think it might be cool if all the alliances were based on twos (ie. bonuses for 2, 4 or 6 units). Even if it would ramp up the power curve a bit, it would add a lot more variety to gameplay to be able to mix and max alliances more freely. Also make it a bit less luck based since it would be a lot more likely you could build something useful out of whatever units you happen to roll.
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Chimney
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Yeah I wouldn't mind it if they did it that way and adjusted the numbers a bit.
I'd also like an item store, but mainly due to the fact in games where comps are similar power getting a shit item from round 25+ is basically a death sentence.\
Edit: Finally got a game to work with Savage because I got two early tooth and claw and a nice warlock line up. Only lost 1 round.
I'd also like an item store, but mainly due to the fact in games where comps are similar power getting a shit item from round 25+ is basically a death sentence.\
Edit: Finally got a game to work with Savage because I got two early tooth and claw and a nice warlock line up. Only lost 1 round.
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swayze22
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I've noticed if you get a 2* terrorblade early it puts you in the drivers seat, once you get 3* terrorblade then like you said, he can basically kill the entire opposing squad if you have a few other units to soak for a few seconds...
I also feel that if you only get "item" rolls and not any complementary globals for druids,savage, demon, etc, then you are probably going to lose. at least for me.
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LiquidDeath
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Oh, and they really need to do something about Shadowfiend. Maybe make him a shaman instead of a warlock or something, but him being viable in nearly any comp just because of the sick ass explosion damage is pretty irritating. Lots of mid-game feels like it is won by whoever gets the first 2* shadowfiend.
swayze22
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to your point - had two 2* shadowfiends, one with the refresher, wrecked everyone with 3 AOEs mid --> late game. i was one 1* away from shadow and lock being 3*s, lucked out. fiends + the healing = GG. for a $3 unit they are really powerful.
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LiquidDeath
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Yeah, he really should be a 4g unit. That would also make him rare enough that you wouldn't have to deal with two 2* before round 20. Of course, even after round 20 it is pretty devastating. I honestly don't know how to solve his problem without taking away the explosion. It is easily the best AoE in the game.
Asshat Brando
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He tails off a bit late game if you can get that far. Biggest issue as already noted is that he's a warlock + AOE damage so he works in almost any comp because of that. 4g is probably a good fix in general though taking him out of warlock would probably be better.
Penance
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What's the deal with nerfing 5g units so hard. The combination of increasing damage taken at early levels, mixed with less of a chance of getting them really puts a hamper on trying to use any 5g units. Plus they don't even feel as strong as they should for the difficulty of getting them.
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Intropy
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I agree that Shadowfiend could be moved to 4g. That said however, he does have counters in the form of demon hunters and scaled alliance if your opponents are really going all-in on the SFs (ie. 2 x SF 2*). I've turned games around against players who leaned too hard them.
LiquidDeath
Magnus Deadlift the Fucktiger
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I agree with you for all 5g units except the Troll Warlord. That dude just crushes.
Delly
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New patch. A good amount of changes, bug fixes, and some new features.
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