Draegan sold the site to MMORPG.com

Gilgamel_sl said:

Man how hard is it to maintain a fucking community message board? This drama is retarded. Not trying to sound ungrateful but fuck dude, this community is old as fuck with like 400 committed assholes who've been at it closing in on 20 years.

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Gilg it cant really be that hard, our old emarr board from 2002 is still up and running even if it is mostly inactive now.

Meh I will just browse both, whoever ends up with staying power suits me just fine. People are naive though if they think new site wont have its share of idiot mods, power-hungry morons or someone trying to make a quick buck off it.

The act of making money off the site I have no problem with, its the secrecy in which it was done and the complete silence about it. If it really was just to dump the LLc/tax and just didn't have the time to manage it, then that should of just been said however many months ago this was going on, but to be all secretive about it nor ask the people who make this forum worth anything at all their opinion was shady.

Daezuel_sl said:

Man rough year eh? First the Rams and now this!!!

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I might not auto+ you on the new site this time!

Yes, I am butthurt about the Rams.

It sucks because it really is fair to you L.A. guys. It is. I can't deny it. I still hate Kroenke but whatever. A win is a win. Good for him. I just wish we could get the Cardinals back. Love my city. It was Rams, Mike Brown, Gravy, and now this. It's bullshit. I demand Allah Reroll the universe in my favor in the afterlife!

Celestein_sl said:

Not to be combative, but that's the same logic a battered wife uses to stay with an abusive husband. It's only barely relevant, the strength of our community is the users, not the content.

Again, as proven in the past, we'll just remake new content, therfore the best course of action is the one that preserves the most active users, not the most content.

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well said m8

Taloo_sl said:

If Hodj leaves can we all just stay here and not let him come back?

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^^

Szlia_sl said:

Other than 1.5 million posts in almost 10k threads in a familiar format...

Having a lifeboat ready in case things go sour is not a bad idea though.

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Yes who doesn't want to go through 10,000 pages of Toonamba and Lithose, oh so much value!


Seriously this forum isn't that valuable, why buy it except to destroy it?

LachiusTZ_sl said:

God's work being done, might want to put LachiusTZ on ignore here . . . or some images seared into your brain.

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Leave it to the God-Botherer to be willing and able to go there.

"Generally speaking, good people will do as much good as they can, and bad people will do as much bad as they can. But if you want good people to do bad things.... you are going to need Religion."

Do your worst, Lach you tool.

You automatically lose most content and some users in a move, so it should be a last resort, not a reaction to the possibly of maybe something negative happening. The new husband in your battered wife analogy did exactly nothing so far except providing a less shoddy house.

I'm glad there's a spot set up to go if things don't work out here, but I'm in the camp that until the new owners pull some shit we might as well stay here. Moving itself is not without risk. There's new mods, etc. Don't want to move, kill this place, and then the new place is just Hoofshots 2.0.

What if this is all a scam to get people to go to the new site so that the new site can be sold. Kinda like Inception but with fat chicks, trannies and airplane derails.

Praetorian_sl said:

What if this is all a scam to get people to go to the new site so that the new site can be sold. Kinda like Inception but with fat chicks, trannies and airplane derails.

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Then he deserves his profit and we are slaves.

Elurin_sl said:

That's a risky game for us, which I think is why so many are pretty open minded about leaving.

Eventually, it's pretty much a given, they're going to be like "Why are we hosting this messed up forum? Let's dump it and/or change it to something palatable."

When that happens, we're screwed. It'll be another one of those middle of the night "where'd the forums disappear to" things, and we have to go to Reddit or IRC or whatever the fuck other avenues we used to contact everyone.

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That's largely why I'm open-minded about moving. I doubt the forums ended up in mmorpg.com's hands because they had an interest in our community. They just got it as part of a package deal to get Rerollz/Junkies. Despite Draegan's best efforts, the connection between this forum and his MMO media empire was always minimal. We aren't the official forums of Junkies Nation and we wouldn't want to be. Also, based on what we've been told in the past, these forums barely generated enough money to cover its costs.

So, realistically, what value does this forum have to someone who isn't part of the community? The only reason these forums have continued to operate for a more than 15 years is because we have wanted it to. It never was and never will be a money-maker, and I have a hard time believing mmorpg.com spent money without believing they would get a return on their investment. Of how much consequence would it be to them if down the road they decide they no longer want to spend the money to keep these forums operational? Again, they have no connection or investment in this community.

Ultimately, the changeover will result in one of three things: Best case, nothing changes. Worst case, they decide the forums cost more than they're worth and shut it down. Or, they realize they don't want to host certain content and start making changes in the rules. Having a member of the community running things obviously may still result in one of the first two possibilities, but I at least feel a lot safer with this site being community run that it won't result in the third. Despite what you may feel about a_skeleton_03, you can't deny he doesn't have a longstanding commitment to these forums. He - unlike, I suspect, mmorpg.com - knows what he's getting by hosting the forums.

I think it comes down to: Do people trust mmorpg.com or a_skeleton_03 more to not object to how this community is run and make changes?

Celestein_sl said:

Again, it's not a hypothetical, the move started.

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The move has not started. People (me included) put their names on the seats of a lifeboat to be on the safe side in a time of uncertainty.

By your logic we would all be on hoofshots...

my question is why would an outsider want to buy this board? is there that much ad revenue generated from it? ive had adblock on for 4 years and i assume most here do as well, specially after the malware shitfest the old FoH board turned ino.

I find it really funny that the liberal posters want to stay under the big government administration, risk (hope?) more PC moderation and maintain the status quo at the risk of getting fucked later.

Carry on.