Dune: Part Two (2023)

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Honestly, I've wondered if the prophet from book 3 was frank's way of dealing with the dismay of all the retards who would abuse his books after he dies. Someone as smart as him had to know this was coming.
 

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Honestly, I've wondered if the prophet from book 3 was frank's way of dealing with the dismay of all the retards who would abuse his books after he dies. Someone as smart as him had to know this was coming.
What do you mean by this? How does the character of the prophet address posthumous retardery?
 
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You may want to re-read book two. There was a side story where the minor character Paul Atreides was targeted with a weapon that had the potential to destroy a planet with enough fuel in an assassination plot. Those weapons definitely exist in Herbert's dune. The frank one, not the fake one.
Huh, ok fair enough. I've only read book 2 maybe twice because it's by far the weakest of the originals IMO. The point about their use still stands though. Whether that's a hole in Herbert's original writing is up for debate I guess.

That was the stone burner, an atomic weapon that had the fun side effect of destroying eye tissue. If given enough fuel, it could burn it's way down to the core of a planet. It's what (technically) blinded Paul, but he kept on going by relying on what he saw in his visions until the end of Messiah.
 
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That was the stone burner, an atomic weapon that had the fun side effect of destroying eye tissue. If given enough fuel, it could burn it's way down to the core of a planet. It's what (technically) blinded Paul, but he kept on going by relying on what he saw in his visions until the end of Messiah.
Right, right. "J-rays" that specifically target eye tissue and (apparently?) nothing else? Yeeaaaaa.

Really what this is is that Frank wanted to blind Paul in his downfall arc and had written himself into a corner in how to go about it. He's too powerful to get a disease or cancer or whatever, sees too much for assassins to get close, is too good a fighter if they DID manage to get close, sooo, wutdo? I got it! Tailored nuclear radiation!


Frank's gotten me a couple of times before in having factual bases for what seems like impossible weirdness, so I'll leave it to others to look up how this is actually totally a thing IRL. He's like the Alex Jones of weird SciFi concepts.
 

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I liked the Body shield concept in the movies, they needed to explain them better.


weirding modules in the orig movie not so much. Personally i think the modules used basic sound as the vehicle of destruction...vibrational frequency. Since the shields let air thru, vibrating air is let thru, thus Bypassing the shield protections..ie the modules are a new weapons tech. Which is why the emperor destroys the atradies family, they had -at that time- no defense against the weapon, to protect his power, the house must go.

As to dune 2 I disliked chani's depiction in the role, too adversarial to paul, and they didn't portray their "love story" well.
 

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Right, right. "J-rays" that specifically target eye tissue and (apparently?) nothing else? Yeeaaaaa.

Really what this is is that Frank wanted to blind Paul in his downfall arc and had written himself into a corner in how to go about it. He's too powerful to get a disease or cancer or whatever, sees too much for assassins to get close, is too good a fighter if they DID manage to get close, sooo, wutdo? I got it! Tailored nuclear radiation!


Frank's gotten me a couple of times before in having factual bases for what seems like impossible weirdness, so I'll leave it to others to look up how this is actually totally a thing IRL. He's like the Alex Jones of weird SciFi concepts.
I never got the impression it only damaged eye tissue. Just that it also especially damaged eye tissue.

I interpreted it as some specialized kind of nuclear reaction that caused massive damage ("stone burner") but that also its radiation was especially damaging to eye tissue.
 

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Right, right. "J-rays" that specifically target eye tissue and (apparently?) nothing else? Yeeaaaaa.

Really what this is is that Frank wanted to blind Paul in his downfall arc and had written himself into a corner in how to go about it. He's too powerful to get a disease or cancer or whatever, sees too much for assassins to get close, is too good a fighter if they DID manage to get close, sooo, wutdo? I got it! Tailored nuclear radiation!


Frank's gotten me a couple of times before in having factual bases for what seems like impossible weirdness, so I'll leave it to others to look up how this is actually totally a thing IRL. He's like the Alex Jones of weird SciFi concepts.
I mean, we have eye drops that specifically target and repair degenerating eye cells. Why couldn’t they have the reverse of that in the far distant future? Hell I bet we could do this now if we wanted to.

 

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coulda had a real girl


I don't care for the new one, and don't think that half breed is good looking, but the other makes you look like a pedo.

Maybe Hollywood just realized hey that's pushing it.
 
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pump the brakes a bit bro, she's 21.
Really? I have no idea who that is. Bitch looks likes she's 16 or something in the Twitter deal.

Why are you also White knighting pedo Hollywood?

Even if she is old enough, she still looks way way Young. That's pretty creepy.
 

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Would have been an improvement but the hairs still wrong. Chani had red hair as did her daughter. I dunno why this is suddenly so hard for Hollywood to figure out.
 

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Would have been an improvement but the hairs still wrong. Chani had red hair as did her daughter. I dunno why this is suddenly so hard for Hollywood to figure out.
Well redheads are target #1 for didn't earn it replacement but I don't recall Sean Young or Barbora Kodetova being redheads either.

Leaving aside that Vilenueve turned her father into a black woman, how the fuck would Chani have red hair in the first place with no red haired ancestors? Her father and paternal grandfather were sandy blondes, her mother had brown hair, her maternal grandfather sure wasn't a ginger, and I don't see any visual reference to her grandmothers.
 

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I'm a pretty huge Dune nerd but I'm gonna have to confess I do not know the hair color of Chani's parents or grandparents. Either you're making shit up or I bow to your superior knowledge of the Dune universe. Either way I can't contest the point.
 

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I'm a pretty huge Dune nerd but I'm gonna have to confess I do not know the hair color of Chani's parents or grandparents. Either you're making shit up or I bow to your superior knowledge of the Dune universe. Either way I can't contest the point.
More like my superior knowledge of how to look things up on the Dune wiki, I haven't even gotten around to reading the books yet.
 
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