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Iadien

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SOE mote's only purpose was to make it into the news on gaming sites.

Also, he did say AFTER 5:30, not exactly 5:30, give it an hour or so. =p
 

rhinohelix

Dental Dammer
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As one of the few people who really liked the human model, likes the dwarf model and didn't mind either the Kerran or the dwarf chicks let me just say you're full of shit on the DE model.

The issue with the DE model _isn't_ that it looks like fan art of Aladdin as one of Cameron's Navi. The issue is that it reflects the problem I had with the EQN Lore: there are no "bad guys" in EQN AFAICK. The DE artwork is not of an evil race twisted by Innoruuk, but of a bunch of sexually ambiguous elves that got dipped in smurf paint. The lack of (for lack of a better word) "evil" that we've seen so far in EQN is a bad sign. In the immortal words of South Park's Satan: You need evil to have good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes. Without a sense of evil in the world the stories that we create as players in the game will suffer.

The one rule from Disney that they should be following, but aren't, is that it takes a strong villian to make a good story, because good stories require obstacles that must be overcome, and the best obstacle is the master villian.

Disney's trick is to make a nasty villian and then add a cute evil pet for the kids.

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There isn't an evil race YET. These just aren't the twisted-by-Innoruuk Dark Elves, though, and there isn't a Neriak, the ogres aren't cursed, etc. THEY AREN'T REMAKING ORIGINAL EVERQUEST. The lore, which along with many factions, multiple starting areas, and the overland world was one of my favorite things about EQ, isn't the same here. We have no idea what are going to be Bad Guy races; orcs look to be in, we haven't heard anything about trolls, etc. When you just let go on the hard-core nostalgia and let this stand on its own, this thread will get much better. This isn't your first love; they favor each other, though, and if you stop comparing New Girl to First Love every.step.of.the.way, maybe you can enjoy her for what she is, rather than what she isn't.

Starting out, its the players as the Combine races against the untamed world, which I think is utterly fantastic. Hopefully the multiple cities/faction politics will evolve as the game progresses. If we are lucky and they manage to bring this across the finish line with even a hint of the potential it has, they can periodically launch new servers back at 0-day and let them progress again, and hopefully they will have the ability to evolve differently than previous iterations, at least to a degree.

I have to give it to Big Flex, though, Dwarf chicks are too anime for my taste but the whole game is pointing in that direction. One thing to keep in mind, too, is that from now until launch, (and this game is at least 16-18 months out; I think April '15 is probably as close as it is going to get) so much is going to change, if it was great right now there would be little chance of them pulling that off, and no way is it going to be as bad as some people think.

SOE should have just shut down the press operation until Christmas, when they really had something new to show, rather than doing the dance and ponytail show for months with people whipped into a frenzy.
 

dgrabs_sl

shitlord
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There isn't an evil race YET. These just aren't the twisted-by-Innoruuk Dark Elves, though, and there isn't a Neriak, the ogres aren't cursed, etc. THEY AREN'T REMAKING ORIGINAL EVERQUEST. The lore, which along with many factions, multiple starting areas, and the overland world was one of my favorite things about EQ, isn't the same here. We have no idea what are going to be Bad Guy races; orcs look to be in, we haven't heard anything about trolls, etc. When you just let go on the hard-core nostalgia and let this stand on its own, this thread will get much better. This isn't your first love; they favor each other, though, and if you stop comparing New Girl to First Love every.step.of.the.way, maybe you can enjoy her for what she is, rather than what she isn't.

Starting out, its the players as the Combine races against the untamed world, which I think is utterly fantastic. Hopefully the multiple cities/faction politics will evolve as the game progresses. If we are lucky and they manage to bring this across the finish line with even a hint of the potential it hints at, they can periodically launch new servers back at 0-day and let them progress again, and hopefully they will have the ability to evolve differently than

I have to give it to Big Flex, though, Dwarf chicks are too anime for my taste but the whole game is pointing in that direction. One thing to keep in mind, too, is that from now until launch, (and this game is at least 16-18 months out; I think April '15 is probably as close as it is going to get) so much is going to change, if it was great right now there would be little chance of them pulling that off, and no way is it going to be as bad as some people think.

SOE should have just shut down the press operation until Christmas, when they really had something new to show, rather than doing the dance and ponytail show for months with people whipped into a frenzy.
I'm not gonna lie, I lul'd at "dance and ponytail show." I'm a little drunk though.
 

Mellent_sl

shitlord
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from that article, it's nice to see that players getting "all" of the dev tools is confirmed once and for all. eventually EQNL could become Easy MMO OvenT. no auction house, either. nice to see that as well.
 

tad10

Elisha Dushku
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Is there new concept art on the everquestnext site? I am confused - some looks new to me. Have I had too much wine?
 

Randin

Trakanon Raider
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from that article, it's nice to see that players getting "all" of the dev tools is confirmed once and for all. eventually EQNL could become Easy MMO OvenT. no auction house, either. nice to see that as well.
And from the way he said it, it sounds like the "no auction house" thing may carry over into EQN proper, as well.
 

Furious

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Is there new concept art on the everquestnext site? I am confused - some looks new to me. Have I had too much wine?
You can never have too much wine! I'm on my 3rd glass of "WHITE"

WTF is WHITE wine?, anyhow, back to pour another glass from the BOX~!
 

Dahkoht_sl

shitlord
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"It's not that I don't know anything about Landmark at this point; I know a lot, but I'm still having difficulty wrapping my head around what it is, exactly. I mention that it feels like SOE has created the ultimate win-win scenario:

From the Massively article.

Apparently Reddit doesn't hold the patent on cock gobbling. He doesn't really know what EQN is but SOE was the ultimate win-win on it's hands.