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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Thanks.. I'm expecting Pvp servers or contested areas sort of like DF. I don't mind PvP if it's done right. I'd rather a really good PvE game at this point but if they can figure out PvP without it messing up the PvE end of it, I'd be happy. Being realistic PvP has to exist to attract that crowd. It might turn out fucking awesome in a sandbox world but sometimes I really just want to PvE and be left alone.. I'm hoping for traditional EQ type classes where people have strengths and weakness. Let's see how they do it.

Btw.. this might not be popular but I'm hoping the instance stuff is like LDON with the augs and shit. I loved LDON lol
 

Kedwyn

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If they do PvP they need to do it right. Open world areas where its enabled, zones of control, mine craft structures and tangible benefits / losses. If they are going to do the instance warrior thing then they might as well not include it. Since every major game released since WoW has had some tacked on PVP I'll assume it would be very difficult to pitch any game without some form of it.
 

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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Even as a lifetime "blue" player, non pvp, I am really hoping for and expecting a fun PVP system.

Am I crazy or has the idea of PVP-only stats/damage yet to have been tried by an MMO?

What I mean by that is instead of Ice Comet at 1200 damage landing for full on players, it'd cap at 350 for example.
I think they could work abilities like that instead of coming up with a bunch of PvP stuff but it's the CC stuff that always gets out of hand. Plus I've never been a big fan of gearing for PvP and PvE..
 

Nirgon

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We'll see. Oh MMORPG.com has a post alleging confirmation of world pvp. So happy dayz for you. Unless it's fake of course.
Regarding non-consensual PvP:
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Fuck my uncle and my mother
 

Fogel

Mr. Poopybutthole
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It depends on how they define and implement consent/non-consent. They could do it like eve where certain area/zones are for bluebies, while other area's you consent to pvp by simply entering them.
 

Nirgon

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Looks like the drawings that all the stoner kids used to make.

On PvP: 1 server where PvP is allowed even in towns PLEASE

I mean as a plus side, doesn't a server like this attract all the "trash" away from the other servers anyways? Imo good idea to have all around.
 

Kedwyn

Silver Squire
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DAOC didn't have PvP around player built structures. They had static structures and it worked pretty damn well for the most part.
 

tad10

Elisha Dushku
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I gotta believe there are player built towns/castles/keeps. Nothing Ive read points otherwise. PvP centered around player built structures could be interesting. It failed hard in DAOC though.
I'm convinced there's some kind of EVEish PvP.... 22 more days until we find out.
 

Grim1

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Just have to say, I love all this speculation so far from August. There is a lot of pent up feeling for EQ, good and bad, the next couple of months are going to be an interesting ride. I hope it's a good one but even if it sucks, there will be DRAMA.
 

Grim1

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I'm convinced there's some kind of EVEish PvP.... 22 more days until we find out.
Didn't PvP back in the EQ days, was a Doom/Quake PvP addict and thought PvP in a game like EQ was lame. I also had no idea how to PvP in a mmo back then.

But since then mmo PvP has become a kind of holy grail for many players, myself included. Even though the twitch skill is minimal, the set up and prepare skill in mmo PvP is enormous. And team skill is critical in good mmo PvP.

So I really hope EQNext at least does PvP well. A good PvP system can give a mediocre PvE mmo extended life and give the devs time to improve the game.
 

althuna_sl

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"We only make good design decisions?" Lol no you don't... you're SOE. Look at EQ, EQ2, Vanguard, etc. But there's still time to change your ways
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Nirgon

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And then there is this.. think you linked me

Every game has the same old instanced PvP.

My entire guild literally quit SWTOR after the 2nd week due to all of the redundant Warzones and Battlegrounds. We're done chasing the carrot on the stick via pvp item rewards. It's not fun anymore. Been there and done that in every game post-WoW.

World PvP with meaning is the only way (on PvP Servers).



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Grim1

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ooooh


Guess I'm rolling on a PvP server this time around....

By implication that means there won't be a "mega server" btw.
 

Grim1

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You'll get eaten alive, bluebie.
Nah, been a PvPer since DAoC. It was just in EQ that I had no clue about mmo PvP. DAoC and other games changed that. Still with my DAoC guild griefing players to this day.

edit: EQ classic had a sort of PvP on some raid FFA servers. Guild vs Guild griefing at the endgame. Pulling whole zones onto the other guild's raid so we could take the dragon is still one of my best memories in all of gaming. That time during Kunark/Velious when our guild was fighting for top spot on the server was epic.