This times 100 after long day of work, if wanna Game , Raid whatever just wanna do it and chill, listen to music. stream Netflix on TV whatever in background cant do that with a fucking headset on.
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That's really the problem. I have a group of guys that I've been playing with since '99, and we all know each other well enough that we get along great in VC, but these days we're basically all doing different things, and only use VC for the occasional co-op or shooter game. Even then though, a lot of the time myself or others would just stick to text anyway. Basically every MMO vent I've been forced to join has been awful. It's like people are afraid of silence and constantly feel the need to be "entertaining" and loud whenever there's a lull. Only exception to this was naturally a FoH & friends vent channel I joined.
I agree as well....I posted it long ago on those "other" forums....a MMO should be about the journey and not the destination.
Case in point....Asherons Call....there was no "end game" and the level cap was so ridiculously high it wasn't really a goal. People logged in to explore the world...and monthly story arcs/patches kept the world/lore moving forward. You played to enjoy that world and your character...not to show your epeen or rush to end game and bitch about nothing to do.
Here is a great quote from wikipedia how some of the mechanics of that MMO were different from the standard of the time:
"Many elements of Asheron's Call are radically different from most other MMORPGs. For example, Asheron's Call does not divide its world into different level zones. While some areas are much more dangerous to players than others, there is nonetheless a mix of different creatures types that creates much more unpredictability than is present in other games. Another key difference is that Asheron's Call does not use character level as the major determinant in the outcome of a combat. Level simply determines what skills are available, and it is the skills and equipment of players and creatures that determine the outcome. Whereas in many games a player will be able to move a cursor over an opponent and instantly know from their level whether they will be successful in combat, in Asheron's Call a character might be able to defeat much higher level foes or lose to much lower level ones, again depending upon one's skill choices and equipment. As with the absence of specific level zones, this creates a higher degree of unpredictability than in most games of this type."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asheron%27s_Call
Case in point....Asherons Call....there was no "end game" and the level cap was so ridiculously high it wasn't really a goal. People logged in to explore the world...and monthly story arcs/patches kept the world/lore moving forward. You played to enjoy that world and your character...not to show your epeen or rush to end game and bitch about nothing to do.
Here is a great quote from wikipedia how some of the mechanics of that MMO were different from the standard of the time:
"Many elements of Asheron's Call are radically different from most other MMORPGs. For example, Asheron's Call does not divide its world into different level zones. While some areas are much more dangerous to players than others, there is nonetheless a mix of different creatures types that creates much more unpredictability than is present in other games. Another key difference is that Asheron's Call does not use character level as the major determinant in the outcome of a combat. Level simply determines what skills are available, and it is the skills and equipment of players and creatures that determine the outcome. Whereas in many games a player will be able to move a cursor over an opponent and instantly know from their level whether they will be successful in combat, in Asheron's Call a character might be able to defeat much higher level foes or lose to much lower level ones, again depending upon one's skill choices and equipment. As with the absence of specific level zones, this creates a higher degree of unpredictability than in most games of this type."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asheron%27s_Call
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Probably old news - but new to me since I don't play EQ2. Here's the lore for the different EQs
I'm curious if EQNext will be set in same time frame of EQ or if they'll go back in time a bit.
They mentioned doing something that connected all EQs. So presumably at some point when EQN is released (or maybe when it is released) there will be some mobs coming out of the Ethernere in EQ and EQ2 or whatever.
I'm curious if EQNext will be set in same time frame of EQ or if they'll go back in time a bit.
The only time I gave in and installed voice chat was in EQ2 and I ended up quitting the game a day later. Immediately from the time I heard the voices of the guys I had been playing with for six months or more it quit being a fun fantasy game to kill some time and enjoy myself to a conference call. Completely ruined the immersion and was just jarring. Haven't used it since and wont ever again. That's just me though and I have no problem with other folks using it but I hate being in a group and trying to chat and the log is pretty much blank with virtual crickets chirping because the rest of them are in voice and aren't paying attention to it. There is no real solution to this problem except surrounding yourself with other like minded people.
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I'm going to reiterate how absolutely terrible most of the designers in this industry are - they don't know their own genre. At all.
Someone said it best on the old boards, maybe Szila or Lithose: we're all playing characters in a play called EverQuest. The reason voicechat is objectively bad, and it's been said already here, is that it brings to reality John from Denver or Pete from Ohio. I don't want to play with John from Denver or Pete from Ohio. I want to playwith their characters. Notice that doesn't mean roleplaying; it means wholly interacting and knowing the character through that character's actions in the gameworld. If John from Denver plays a badass murderer in UO who's feared and infamous, it will literally break any of that fear and infamy if I login to vent and hear he's some 15 year old kid with a country accent.
The massively multiplayer is not about playing with other people. It's about playing with the expressions of those other people in the gameworld.
Designers can't design worth a fucking shit anymore, and it's such a shame for this industry and all of us.
Someone said it best on the old boards, maybe Szila or Lithose: we're all playing characters in a play called EverQuest. The reason voicechat is objectively bad, and it's been said already here, is that it brings to reality John from Denver or Pete from Ohio. I don't want to play with John from Denver or Pete from Ohio. I want to playwith their characters. Notice that doesn't mean roleplaying; it means wholly interacting and knowing the character through that character's actions in the gameworld. If John from Denver plays a badass murderer in UO who's feared and infamous, it will literally break any of that fear and infamy if I login to vent and hear he's some 15 year old kid with a country accent.
The massively multiplayer is not about playing with other people. It's about playing with the expressions of those other people in the gameworld.
Designers can't design worth a fucking shit anymore, and it's such a shame for this industry and all of us.
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lol i was thinking that earlier today but got sidetracked with work... I wonder how people would feel about that one..
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yep. one of the worst MMO experiences i had is the first time our guild did VC and i discovered our guild leader sounded just like michael jackson. after that, it was impossible to take him seriously.
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I'm curious of when the first time "The Ethernere" showed up in EQ lore. I've never fucking heard of this shit before and I was a huge EQ lore nerd back in the day.