EQ TLP(s) 2026 Part 1: PvP or go cuddle your mother

Korillo

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Unfortunately, the posted ruleset does seem pretty official. Here is the summarized version:
1) The server will start in Velious.
2) Luclin will unlock 18 weeks after the server launch. PoP will launch 18 weeks after Luclin. Expansion post PoP will unlock on an 8 week cadence.
3) PoP & LoY will unlock together. DoN & OoW will unlock together. DoDH & PoR will unlock together.
4) Beastlords & Berserkers will be available at launch.
5) No truebox or "client per computer" limit
6) XP rate will be the same as the current Live xp rate
7) Loot will be free trade, and the loot tables will be the mischief random tables. Focus effects will be enabled for all expansions, and item level requirements will be disabled
8) The server will have encounter locking, often referred to as FTE (First to engage)
9) The server will have evolving bonuses (a new bonus added each expansion)
10) The server will have challenge achievements enabled (a straight copy of the Vaniki achievements)
11) The server will have the Resource Hunter Bonus (random bonuses applied to random zones, changing everyday
12) The server will have legacy characters (bonuses for having 2 or more personas at max level, along with character lockouts rather than account lockouts)

The only thing not official seems to be the launch date. Based on the past launch dates, it'll likely go live on May 20th, 2026 or May 27th, 2026.

It is still 4 months away though. If they just got rid of the 18 week unlocks for Luclin & PoP, this server will actually be super popular. Maybe it still will be thanks to the bonuses, but I'm not sure people understand just how long 4 months in 1 expansion with live xp actually is. Especially with random loot, and the bonus loot that comes with it.
 
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Mrniceguy

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The 18 weeks of SOV isn't nearly as bad as people think. People overestimate the speed they will level and the amount of Classic/Kunark content that they will end up doing anyways. 18 weeks of SOL will be absolute shit though.

But, FTE + everyone having access MQ2 is going to be the driving force behind the servers terrible retention. I don't think people have thought through how shit that combo will be.
 
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Elderan

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Unfortunately, the posted ruleset does seem pretty official. Here is the summarized version:
1) The server will start in Velious.
2) Luclin will unlock 18 weeks after the server launch. PoP will launch 18 weeks after Luclin. Expansion post PoP will unlock on an 8 week cadence.
3) PoP & LoY will unlock together. DoN & OoW will unlock together. DoDH & PoR will unlock together.
4) Beastlords & Berserkers will be available at launch.
5) No truebox or "client per computer" limit
6) XP rate will be the same as the current Live xp rate
7) Loot will be free trade, and the loot tables will be the mischief random tables. Focus effects will be enabled for all expansions, and item level requirements will be disabled
8) The server will have encounter locking, often referred to as FTE (First to engage)
9) The server will have evolving bonuses (a new bonus added each expansion)
10) The server will have challenge achievements enabled (a straight copy of the Vaniki achievements)
11) The server will have the Resource Hunter Bonus (random bonuses applied to random zones, changing everyday
12) The server will have legacy characters (bonuses for having 2 or more personas at max level, along with character lockouts rather than account lockouts)

The only thing not official seems to be the launch date. Based on the past launch dates, it'll likely go live on May 20th, 2026 or May 27th, 2026.

It is still 4 months away though. If they just got rid of the 18 week unlocks for Luclin & PoP, this server will actually be super popular. Maybe it still will be thanks to the bonuses, but I'm not sure people understand just how long 4 months in 1 expansion with live xp actually is. Especially with random loot, and the bonus loot that comes with it.

Still hoping they take the polls as input and not the actual rules but does not seem like thats the case.
 

Cinge

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I think its going to be fairly popular. Going to be enough to do at the start and people will swarm in to make krono, but the 36 weeks thing until pop might drag it down until then.

After that its pretty smooth sailing. Turning the 70s into just 16 weeks total is a huge QoL(OoW/DoN + DoDh/PoR).

So many of these seem half nostalgia and half to make krono. Anyone that stays after omens is at least mostly in it to try and go as long as they can.
 
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Ikkan

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This server is going to be great - FINALLY we get another boxing server, and it's free trade to boot. I like the slower start because I can take it easier the first few months rather than having to level + AA 24/7 while making sure to get all my lockouts immediately done.
 
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Needless

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live exp rates in velious will be a very fast timing to hit 60, even for the super casuals this server is appealing to
 

moonarchia

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live exp rates in velious will be a very fast timing to hit 60, even for the super casuals this server is appealing to
If you have all the personas that's going to be 100000% baller. Zoom to 60, get some decent toys. Use them on next 15 lives. Having everything at 60 with full AAs going into POP will be awesome. If that 12 point list is correct I will actually resub when the server launches.
 
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B_Mizzle

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The 18 weeks of SOV isn't nearly as bad as people think. People overestimate the speed they will level and the amount of Classic/Kunark content that they will end up doing anyways. 18 weeks of SOL will be absolute shit though.

But, FTE + everyone having access MQ2 is going to be the driving force behind the servers terrible retention. I don't think people have thought through how shit that combo will be.

So is mq2 allowed at this point if its not truebox server? I was looking at maybe 2 boxing with isboxer but mq2 is so much better.

Tuco Tuco you still running box armies?
 

Tuco

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So is mq2 allowed at this point if its not truebox server? I was looking at maybe 2 boxing with isboxer but mq2 is so much better.

Tuco Tuco you still running box armies?
I only 6box, no armies. I've never used MQ2, only ISBoxer.

I guess MQ2 will be enabled on this server? But it and ISBoxer aren't actually condoned. People claimed to get whacked purely for using MQ2 all the time, but who knows what they were doing with it.
 
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B_Mizzle

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I only 6box, no armies. I've never used MQ2, only ISBoxer.

I guess MQ2 will be enabled on this server? But it and ISBoxer aren't actually condoned. People claimed to get whacked purely for using MQ2 all the time, but who knows what they were doing with it.

Yeah that's my concern I saw a thread on reddit from about a year or 2 ago about banwaves hitting people on mq2. Several of my accounts are super old and i'm not interested in getting them banned. I'll probably just do ISboxer and 2 box clr enc, maybe big maybe 3 box and add a mag, as on the official discord they have links to a guy on youtube who has a video guide series for setting up ISboxer to run a 6 box group. So maybe not officially approved but at least tacitly approved.
 

Elderan

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Yeah that's my concern I saw a thread on reddit from about a year or 2 ago about banwaves hitting people on mq2. Several of my accounts are super old and i'm not interested in getting them banned. I'll probably just do ISboxer and 2 box clr enc, maybe big maybe 3 box and add a mag, as on the official discord they have links to a guy on youtube who has a video guide series for setting up ISboxer to run a 6 box group. So maybe not officially approved but at least tacitly approved.

The people who make mq2 put something in that blocks it on any TLP that has Truebox enabled. They remove that block when Truebox is removed (or in this case never added). MacroQuest is still against the rules though. There will 100% be ban/suspension waves on the server. How many and how bad they are no one knows. If you have really old accounts you dont want to mess up dont use it.

Just to add there has been six mq2 waves on Fangbreaker since its launch.
 

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So is mq2 allowed at this point if its not truebox server? I was looking at maybe 2 boxing with isboxer but mq2 is so much better.

Tuco Tuco you still running box armies?
I got hit on Fangbreaker for what I can only imagine was MQ2 that was on disk due to one of those goofy emu servers that packaged a version for automating alts (FV Project or something?). At least that's what I assume since otherwise I've only ever used GINA/EQ NAG. I appealed and they said it was appropriate but only accounts that were on that PC were hit. I never even ran the damn thing with the official client that I'm aware of.
 
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Mrniceguy

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Yeah that's my concern I saw a thread on reddit from about a year or 2 ago about banwaves hitting people on mq2. Several of my accounts are super old and i'm not interested in getting them banned. I'll probably just do ISboxer and 2 box clr enc, maybe big maybe 3 box and add a mag, as on the official discord they have links to a guy on youtube who has a video guide series for setting up ISboxer to run a 6 box group. So maybe not officially approved but at least tacitly approved.

It's technically still illegal it just becomes accessible to room temperature IQ RMTers for the reasons Elderan stated. It creates this situation where you'll have a bunch of retards running around using it, but at the same time it's still not really legally so i wouldn't wanna use it.

With FTE there is just a bunch of places that a MQ2 using 6 boxer could grief the entire server in ways they couldn't without FTE. The Bard 2.0 dragons being the best example i can think of.
 

Pharone

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Still hoping they take the polls as input and not the actual rules but does not seem like thats the case.
Just curious. Which of the poll outcomes do you not want implemented in particular?

Personally, I just don't like the long unlock periods. The rest of it I can live with to be honest.

If you have all the personas that's going to be 100000% baller. Zoom to 60, get some decent toys. Use them on next 15 lives. Having everything at 60 with full AAs going into POP will be awesome. If that 12 point list is correct I will actually resub when the server launches.
I would have liked if they would have put ONE more server rule up for vote... Ability to switch Persona ANYWHERE when out of combat. That would be the feature that would hook me. When I tested Personas before they officially came out, the ability to swap personas between fights was fucking fun as hell.
 

Elderan

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Just curious. Which of the poll outcomes do you not want implemented in particular?

Personally, I just don't like the long unlock periods. The rest of it I can live with to be honest.
The Truebox vote was heavily manipulated. Almost none of the people I talked to could vote. They accidentally opened up voting to every account (active and non active) twice for a few hours pouring in hundreds of votes.

They should just make two servers, one with truebox, one without truebox and merge them in a year once truebox is removed off both servers.