Mrniceguy
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Imagine what it's like being so retarded you trust someone who isn't even honest about their Sex.
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Imagine what it's like being so retarded you trust someone who isn't even honest about their Sex.
Loser Nirgon
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He has mega goofball libtards as guides/GMs. I am fully aware and promise. The mother of all red flags, by his own decision.
Tuco
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A game holding your interest for a year is a pretty long time.
I don't know what about a soloable EQ would hold your interest for longer. Like, once you beat the content why would you farm it without a community to keep the game interesting?
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I think this is where THJ shined. They were in the process of adding things like SSF etc.. made EQ more of an ARPG than an MMO. Even for being a more solo oriented server the community was very active.
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Arden
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Tuco
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Yeah, live EQ as a proficient 6 boxer is more like a party based ARPG with a very high APM ceiling and fast kill mob speeds (15s). Unfortunately there really isn't a way to make that kind of gameplay accessible to most of the potatoes that play EQ without neutering the game for people like me.
MrHolland420
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MrHolland420
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Was this tactic in the Art of the Deal????
How can you trust a tranny? They don't trust their own biology......Everything is Ghey and Fuckin' Retarded. It's all about the $$$$$$$$. C.R.E.A.M.
moonarchia
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TLPs are fun for pure nostalgia, and you shouldn't be looking at *any* game to keep your attention for years at a time. That's an obsession, not a hobby. I am enjoying the emus a lot, because they are interesting takes on the old theme. THJ was probably the best EQ themed fun I have had in decades. What they had done up until the lawsuit was super well polished. Still annoys me that they did all that without getting a license from DBG so they could have kept going, but that's how it goes.
This could be a good thing in the long run. If people are able to homebrew and have DBG be publisher to control the $$$ that opens a lot of doors. For folks that want to have total control I can see them not liking that part, but when you're playing in someone else's IP pool, you play by their rules.
I could see DBG opening up client and server code under a limited license if this works out well and yields a lot of $$$. Let people go hog wild but limit player counts to 500 or something for free so the eqemu peeps can still do their thing, but require them to sign on with DBG if they end up making something hugely popular.
MrHolland420
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Siliconemelons
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I know this thread is moving fast...
But lulz @ Rogean being all saint-ified
Also, go back and read some of the "at the time" happening of when Secrets left p99 or whatever, their own new servers and emus etc- now Rogain and Secrettown are buddy buddy together in this brand new super awesome Daybreak classic EQ goodness!
Guess now they both can finally (admit) to making stacks of cash off of EQ! Gratz.
But neither are spotless even in their own emu scenes.
I expect my pre-ban for even mentioning this
Now... for what it is from what was given so far? sure looks fun, will try out*
*if not pre-banned for daring to not say these people are gods gift to mmo/emu community
Arden
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I know this thread is moving fast...
But lulz @ Rogean being all saint-ified
Also, go back and read some of the "at the time" happening of when Secrets left p99 or whatever, their own new servers and emus etc- now Rogain and Secrettown are buddy buddy together in this brand new super awesome Daybreak classic EQ goodness!
Guess now they both can finally (admit) to making stacks of cash off of EQ! Gratz.
But neither are spotless even in their own emu scenes.
I expect my pre-ban for even mentioning this
Now... for what it is from what was given so far? sure looks fun, will try out*
*if not pre-banned for daring to not say these people are gods gift to mmo/emu community
I don't give a shit about any of that tbh. All I care about is the game they are making.
I don't expect them to be "spotless" or "saints." I have no expectations at all, honestly.
I'll check out the game when it's available and if it's fun I'll play it. If it's not, I won't.
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Siliconemelons
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Yeah I am there with ya, I guess your post was just one of the many I quoted so sorry its not really /at you/ really, but the sentiment.
Was there any info on the /enhanced visuals/ part? is this a new "game" i.e. engine? or just an official super mod of EQ1
Pharone
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The reason that EQ does not hold my interest for longer than a year at a time is because that's about how long it takes for a TLP server goes from being playable as one character joining random groups to having to be in perfect groups which leads to everybody playing their own boxed group. Now I know the nerds will be along to torch me on number of months and so forth fact checking like a mother fucker, but I'm just talking in general.
If EQ was to build boxing support INTO the game client, I would probably play it all the way to Live. The simple fact is, I am not personally ok with using 3rd party software to play the game and I suck ass at boxing via alt-tab.
You as an efficient boxer get a lot more out of Everquest than I ever will simply because you CAN and DO box your own groups and enjoy doing it from what I have gathered from your posts here on the forums over the years. I respect that. I just am a shit boxer and never have been even slightly good at it.
I would potentially get in to using 3rd party software to do it, but I've also seen how corrupt DBG is and I personally would not want to work on a six box crew for years only to have them banned some day when one of the corrupt fuckers at DBG decides "today is the day we crack down". Fuck that. Games like EverQuest are a major investment of time for their players. Any chance of having your time and effort erased by a GM having a bad day is a NO GO, FULL STOP for me.
Everquest Legends isn't a perfect concept, but the fact that you can multiclass and potentially do the same on one character that would take a box crew to do in Everquest but allow me to do it in an environment where I don't have to worry about losing all my effort due to a pissed off corrupt employee is a good thing to me.
If DBG would build boxing software into their game client, I wouldn't need Everquest Legends. But, we all know that DBG will never do that because somebody, somewhere is getting a kickback.
So... there's why.
Biggest difference between legends and THJ and why legends will fail.
Aporia and Co - talk to the community, listen to feedback, implement change.
Rogean and Secrets - We know what's best, deal with it.
Aporia and Co - talk to the community, listen to feedback, implement change.
Rogean and Secrets - We know what's best, deal with it.
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Deruvian
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I dunno, to me, Secrets and Rogean seem like a great combo to shepherd this forward.
On the vision thing, first off, I assume they'll be able to involve other devs and parties give it's a super cool and unique project given the Daybreak partnership.
I have a hard time blaming either of them on bans or lack of flexibility on server vision. Showing weakness indecision when managing a gigantic community with highly disparate views is a recipe for disaster. The rules are the rules, the vision is the vision. Especially for a passion project. Every change from classic was highly scrutinized, and many things that people wanted changed were also highly scrutinized by both sides. There's really no winning - which I think is different on a purely green fields server like THJ.
In terms of community engagement, Aporia had a great attitude. And I loved THJ. But there's a reasonable question as to whether the community centric approach, twitch co sponsors etc were directly designed to maximize population/engagement for financial means. And if so, doesn't Secrets/Rogean now have that same incentive? This probably strides the same passion project/financial success balance for them that it did for the Aporia and Cata.
Maybe this post will blow up in my face, but I'm just excited to have some version of this server back, especially one that can be build upon fearlessly without worrying about being shut down. Maybe even some of the good work can trickle back into the live game.
On the vision thing, first off, I assume they'll be able to involve other devs and parties give it's a super cool and unique project given the Daybreak partnership.
I have a hard time blaming either of them on bans or lack of flexibility on server vision. Showing weakness indecision when managing a gigantic community with highly disparate views is a recipe for disaster. The rules are the rules, the vision is the vision. Especially for a passion project. Every change from classic was highly scrutinized, and many things that people wanted changed were also highly scrutinized by both sides. There's really no winning - which I think is different on a purely green fields server like THJ.
In terms of community engagement, Aporia had a great attitude. And I loved THJ. But there's a reasonable question as to whether the community centric approach, twitch co sponsors etc were directly designed to maximize population/engagement for financial means. And if so, doesn't Secrets/Rogean now have that same incentive? This probably strides the same passion project/financial success balance for them that it did for the Aporia and Cata.
Maybe this post will blow up in my face, but I'm just excited to have some version of this server back, especially one that can be build upon fearlessly without worrying about being shut down. Maybe even some of the good work can trickle back into the live game.