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xmod2

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Can you freely use spells from a multi class while you’re playing a warrior primary? Do you have to pick 3 classes that all share the same armor and weapon requirements?
In THJ, it just gave you the 'best' of each class. So combat calc from your best class, AC calcs, etc. It counted you as being all three classes so if you were enc/clr/brd you could wear plate and dual wield and cast enchanter spells. Knowing this though, it probably will be worse and more player antagonistic somehow.
 

Xevy

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If any of your classes can use the item, all of your classes can use the item. They also said they removed a lot of racial requirements out of very niche stuff because that felt antagonistic to the system.
 
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rolien

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-Char creation you pick first class. (restricted by your race selection)
-still on char creation, pick second class. No restriction
-both level as you play until 10, then you pick third class. no restriction.
-level 11, you LOCK your primary class and race. You cannot change these until you get tokens/achievements/mtx. You can change your secondary/tertiary classes in major cities and you will delevel to your lowest level.
So hold up your primary class and race are locked... and you just can't change period even to other's that shouldn't be locked unless you have a token?

For instance I pick human mage/beast/necro hit 11. I can't just pick Half Elf Bard/SK/Pally? Even though Half Elf can be a bard unless I have something?

If you can't just freely choose and they're not allowing alts you can guarantee fucking class and race tokens will be in the market shop.
 

Burren

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So hold up your primary class and race are locked... and you just can't change period even to other's that shouldn't be locked unless you have a token?

For instance I pick human mage/beast/necro hit 11. I can't just pick Half Elf Bard/SK/Pally? Even though Half Elf can be a bard unless I have something?

If you can't just freely choose and they're not allowing alts you can guarantee fucking class and race tokens will be in the market shop.
Apparently you gain tokens in game to unlock those things, but I don’t know the frequency.
 

rolien

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Apparently you gain tokens in game to unlock those things, but I don’t know the frequency.
I mean... that's cool but can we make things that should start unlocked without hindrance no doubt these tokens and shit are gonna be a bitch to unlock I doubt it will be like Kill 100 spiders to unlock dark elf.

Also new skills Athletics for run speed and jump height. We Morrowind now.
 
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murawung

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Aha. Ok so that clears up the class and race lock potentially (in the cash shop and achievements).
But, it sort of sounds like after lvl 11 not all classes level in tandem?
All three chosen classes level in tandem. But if you choose to swap to a different class then you will delevel to the lowest level of what you choose. And you can't swap out of your primary without unlocking a primary class swap
 
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Burren

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All three chosen classes level in tandem. But if you choose to swap to a different class then you will delevel to the lowest level of what you choose. And you can't swap out of your primary without unlocking a primary class swap
Aaaahhhh. Got it. Thanks.
 

rolien

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All three chosen classes level in tandem. But if you choose to swap to a different class then you will delevel to the lowest level of what you choose. And you can't swap out of your primary without unlocking a primary class swap
This is gonna be brutal if true the example in that video showed requiring all PoSky quests to be done to unlock warrior as primary that just idk... And to unlock dark elf requires max faction.

Idk not having Alts seems like it's gonna suck majorly. A lot of the stuff in the video otherwise sounded good but ehh.
 

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Just look at what THJ did, and think of how you can change it for the worse. Then make it faker and gayer than that.
 
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that video showed requiring all PoSky quests to be done to unlock warrior as primary
Wait, what? You have to complete quests in PoS to open character slots? (Didn't watch the video, just going by your all's Cliff Notes.)
That might be a problem since a high percentage of the multitude of casuals that will play this server have ZERO idea how PoS works. Or what any of the quests are. Or how to even fucking get there.
Talk about gatekeeping, holy shit. Casuals are going to be pissed if they have to learn a raid zone just to progress. And not just any raid zone, PoSky! lol
 
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Burren

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Wait, what? You have to complete quests in PoS to open character slots? (Didn't watch the video, just going by your all's Cliff Notes.)
That might be a problem since a high percentage of the multitude of casuals that will play this server have ZERO idea how PoS works. Or what any of the quests are. Or how to even fucking get there.
Talk about gatekeeping, holy shit. Casuals are going to be pissed if they have to learn a raid zone just to progress. And not just any raid zone, PoSky! lol
I used to know, but its been so long that I remember zero about that place. Maybe some of it will come back if I go in?

In any event, more details have been clarified as I've read and watched things today; people will get a couple of tokens by lvl 50 that unlock classes for changing your main any time or for Alts (which will eventually be available).
 

Araxen

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PoS is one of the worst zones in the game. Forcing people to play in it is a no buy to me.
 

Creslin

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I mean... that's cool but can we make things that should start unlocked without hindrance no doubt these tokens and shit are gonna be a bitch to unlock I doubt it will be like Kill 100 spiders to unlock dark elf.

Also new skills Athletics for run speed and jump height. We Morrowind now.
We saw the dark elf unlock was max faction with dark bargainers and dread guard inner and outer. Those three all increase with the red wine quest so unless they go out of their way to remove that it's an easy unlock. It seems like all race unlocks are tied to faction somehow.
Wait, what? You have to complete quests in PoS to open character slots? (Didn't watch the video, just going by your all's Cliff Notes.)
That might be a problem since a high percentage of the multitude of casuals that will play this server have ZERO idea how PoS works. Or what any of the quests are. Or how to even fucking get there.
Talk about gatekeeping, holy shit. Casuals are going to be pissed if they have to learn a raid zone just to progress. And not just any raid zone, PoSky! lol
I mean at 50 even if you are not that great a player you should be able to clear difficulty 0 and 1 sky and many of those drops are very common and tradeable so you can just buy missing stuff on the AH. I believe you can complete sky quests on any class so you don't need to level to 50 on that class first. I mean considering you get one primary unlock at 50 for free to try out your next combo it doesn't feel that bad, you can be leveling that first free unlocked primary while you dabble in sky for more unlocks.

Sky is not a hard raid zone I don't get the hate, it's very quick to move through if you die, especially if you just respawn on Island 1. Bees is literally the only encounter in there that has any nuance to it at all unless they massively change the fights.
 

Xevy

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That Plane of Sky shit is kind of weird, but it's essentially the end game zone of the release. Also you don't HAVE to do it to unlock warrior, you can either start warrior, run warrior 3rd class, or use the free token you get at level 50 (at least one).

But makes me wonder if they have fast respawn on Sky stuff in instances AND open world. Obviously they'd have to remove shit like Death Touch because you're not soloing that without extra mechanics.

Non respawning instances and respawning instances also seem weird. I'm guessing there's a guaranteed loot bonus/item level bonus on non-respawning instances. Unsure why they'd exist otherwise if you can personally instance any zone as a respawning instance. Unless this is their weird way of stating Raid instances vs Zone instances. Might need to clear that up.
 

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This is gonna be brutal if true the example in that video showed requiring all PoSky quests to be done to unlock warrior as primary that just idk... And to unlock dark elf requires max faction.

Idk not having Alts seems like it's gonna suck majorly. A lot of the stuff in the video otherwise sounded good but ehh.
It sounds dumb BUT if you’re gonna make a “primary” class that’s dumb might as well make it warrior. Anyone can roll that class except what, Erudite or High Elf?
 

moonarchia

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PoS is one of the worst zones in the game. Forcing people to play in it is a no buy to me.
It was massively easy on THJ. But they did take DTs out of all zones. Pop your DZ and just mow everything down. Quest bits dropped like candy. There is still a good zone write up out there for some reason.
 

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All the sky quests have 1 rare drop usually from the bosses of the islands that's the main bottleneck. Clearing the zone should be trivial with the increase in power but some of those quest drop rates are brutal. It will depend alot on respawn timers/drop rates if they tweak them.
 

Burren

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It sounds dumb BUT if you’re gonna make a “primary” class that’s dumb might as well make it warrior. Anyone can roll that class except what, Erudite or High Elf?
I was thinking War primary and druid/zerk or druid/enchant secondary.
Or...Monk primary with shaman/zerk secondary.
Or....
 

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Sky is not hated because it's hard. Sky sucks because it's a slog with stupid mechanics (DT) and weird forced time gates and keying requirements. Also 90% of the random trash shit that drops is useless clutter.