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I think it's fair to go from EQL devs were likely involved in THJ shutdown -> disappointment the the THJ ripoff they produced is some totally different type of game. Especially after the initial billing made it seem like that was the intent.

Everything ive seen implies the ousted THJ devs were just a lot better at this than the new guys. Doesn't mean this new server won't be enjoyable. Most EQ emu are to some extent. But it's a bit of a bummer the old guys were cut off right as they hit stride. I liked their brand of the game.
 
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Xevy

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Man reading through that thread is eye opening. You know why no one can compare Classic THJ to Classic EQL?

It DIDN'T EXIST. Kunark was in at launch. You beat naggy+vox and you unlocked Kunark so there was a threshold, but there's literally no comparison.

Also a lot of those posts are about people consuming all the content too fast and just twiddling their thumbs until Velious. It's obvious a slower paced server would be better, but the fact it has a sub tied to it gets so much (possibly rightfully) flak.
 
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Xevy said:
Not to say there's not the "I love EQ and can't wait to be an elf in Kelethin!" type that permeates through EQ who's just as bad in different ways. They offer no criticism, applaud everything, and end up playing the game for like a week and tossing it aside to play some 33% off steam games to 1/4 completion on an endless cycle of casualism that ends up fucking dad gamers and nolife gamers alike.
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I've never been so offended in my life
 
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Flobee said:
I've never been so offended in my life
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Don't worry, that probably makes up 70% of the actual EQ base and probably 90% of DPG's funding because they don't use kronos for their account and forget to turn off their credit card billing long after they quit.
 
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I played during beta and classic. I ran CLR/ROG/BST. I spent a bunch of time grinding in the hole. With enough MR you can do fear. I think I was using dual painbringers or CLR summon hammer + painbringer.

Since ROG could skip everything my routine near the end of classic was, Nag, VOX, Yael, Fear Golems, Draoliche, and then burn all cooldowns to burstdown CT before he summoned everything,
 
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Xevy

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Kunark wasn't available on release. This schedule feels familiar:
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I stand corrected! It was hard to find for sure with their reddit posts and websites getting nuked.

Also I found there were SOME items with +spellpower (like 5 to 10 and it seemed rare). The only example I could find a picture of was in the thread from that time of the summoned cleric lvl 50 hammer:

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So they did have some spell power, a lot of the itemization was bad for classic items so if stuff didn't have wis/int specifically I don't think it got spell/heal power.

I keep reading and am reminded some of the dumber shit from THJ like using your lvl 5 spells because all your power came from +spell power and +healing and sympathetic procs, so unlocking higher spells didn't always matter.
 
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I keep reading and am reminded some of the dumber shit from THJ like using your lvl 5 spells because all your power came from +spell power and +healing and sympathetic procs, so unlocking higher spells didn't always matter.
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Due to sympathetic strike you were incentivized to use lower cool downs for free DPS.

Also +Spell and + Heal was based off of Wisdom and Int

I think:
Int items gave spell damage based on Int stat once items were legendary
Wis Items gave spell (1/2) and heal based on Wis stat once items were legendary
 
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Cinge

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I am little tempted to try still but really requiring a box price and then sub just to try is my barrier for going in blindly.

This forum sometimes isnt the best for game opinions. Great for some games, but then others so many things non game related make people so biased against the game. But I also never played THJ, so I dont have the "you took my game away from me, so I wont support you", which is a valid reason imo.
 
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I mean there is no way that a forum that came to existence over one of the best ( fuckin sweatiest) eq players discontent of the game is going to provide you an appropriate consensus or sentiment of whatever mutant version of everquest is out right now. Its fucking pipe dream shit.

if you think you want to try it, its what,15 - 20 bucks a month or whatever? Just do it.

Just form your own opinion by trying it, realizing that it sucks and then trying again whenever they come up with another stupid version, or iteration of a system using the same content.

maybe if you are lucky, you will enjoy it and pay daybreak more than the sub fee to get ahead and experience the same shit thrice, or once if its your first time which I doubt.
 
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Xevy said:
The AEing entire zones in THJ was fun for sure, but it was also mandatory.
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Sure if you wanted to farm some augs but there we're multiple ways you could farm exp. Take afking on a petcuck or bard for example. People would farm thousands of aa's over the span of a week or 2 just by afking in guk or dn and you can say "oh well the game was too fast" but that's the point. Everyone would max out one toon and then start another and honestly it sounds like they're trying to milk everyone while slowing the game down and timegating everything.

Also petcuck was one of it not the most popular build in THJ and that's not happening in EQL cause fuck having fun amirite?
 
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Malicre said:
Sure if you wanted to farm some augs but there we're multiple ways you could farm exp. Take afking on a petcuck or bard for example. People would farm thousands of aa's over the span of a week or 2 just by afking in guk or dn. Sounds like they're trying to milk everyone while slowing the game down and timegating everything thing.

Also petcuck was one of it not the single most popular build in THJ and that's not happening in EQL cause fuck having fun amirite?
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So you either AE'd or

You happened to be a pet character that then would have to leave their game running to get AA's, which was, funnily, against their terms and bannable.

Not great options.
 
Xevy

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Malicre said:
Huh? My guy this was absolutely never true lol.

Apparently you didn't play THJ.
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I did. Here where your options:

You can AE a zone? AE a zone!

or

You can slay undead? You're either fucking around in Veksar at max level or living in Lguk at ~35! Wowwee!

or

You're a pet cuck. You can kill stuff easily and fast, but you either sit in a high-traffic place like Umbral Plains or sit on a multi spawn camp like Dogs in Velks and AFK.

or

You can't do any of those so you group up with some one that can. Usually the AE groups. I saw a lot of people without AE's group up in DN and just afk while people AE'd it or if they were feeling spunky they'd be the "pullers" for the AErs.
 
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Xevy said:
I did. Here where your options:

You can AE a zone? AE a zone!

or

You can slay undead? You're either fucking around in Veksar at max level or living in Lguk at ~35! Wowwee!

or

You're a pet cuck. You can kill stuff easily and fast, but you either sit in a high-traffic place like Umbral Plains or sit on a multi spawn camp like Dogs in Velks and AFK.

or

You can't do any of those so you group up with some one that can. Usually the AE groups. I saw a lot of people without AE's group up in DN and just afk while people AE'd it or if they were feeling spunky they'd be the "pullers" for the AErs.
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I'm talking about your latest point saying that afk farming was against their ToS.

They have never banned anyone for unautomated gameplay even if AFK. They knew all about AFK farming and even brought it up in multiple weekly QnA streams.

What people liked about THJ was the fast leveling, fast progression, challenging super bosses and rerolling new trios to see how well they do. Imagine thinking EQL will offer any of that.

Secrets and Rogean are clueless and have no idea as to what made THJ good and at this point they're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks and i can't wait to see how many people get suckered into paying the box price + initial sub just to try it out.
 
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Malicre said:
What people liked about THJ was the fast leveling, fast progression, challenging super bosses and rerolling new trios to see how well they do. Imagine thinking EQL will offer any of that.
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They already have hella fast leveling. It's got a bit of a grind to it to make it 100% unlocked for 100% of the combos, but they are working on streamlining the Sky quests for that already.
 
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