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Tuco

Tuco

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Xevy said:
I did. Here where your options:
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I didn't play THJ so forgive my ignorance, but why were those your options? It sounds like THJ is just a power fantasy where you can do whatever and still win. Why couldn't you just venture into random zones for your level and kill everything?

That's how I leveled a new group on live a month ago. I literally just started at an expansion appropriate for my level and killed every mob that wasn't being camped in that zone before moving on. It's not the fastest way to do it, but after so many years I don't really care.
 
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Xevy said:
The AEing entire zones in THJ was fun for sure, but it was also mandatory. You HAD to be able to kill 48 rats or all of Nadox on cooldown + pull time just to get enough AA's to be "ready" for raid content or get the augs you were putting in every slot. I don't know of anyone who was AEing zones before max level and even then you had to get the right gear/procs/AA's to be able to do it. It was fun, sometimes, but it also became a chore. Nadox especially blasting the entire zone for a CHANCE at a good aug you got every 3rd zone round-up while getting little to no AA or being AA capped at that point. It was nice being ABLE to do it, but it was less nice being FORCED to do it to save time.

I think they see that shit and try to find a fix to the problem, but don't quite hit the mark in their solution. Capping target's at 8 is just a way of telling people they don't have to level an AE class as a mandatory grind mechanic. Is that a good way to do it? I honestly don't know, but the people who love pulling whole zones and blasting them will be pissed, but now the fomo's won't have to worry about leveling Clr/Brd/Wiz or some shit to try and "keep up".

Also, as stated 300 times before, did ANYONE play Classic THJ? I'm legitimately asking. I've gone through the THJ channel and most of the people talking then aren't posting here and there's 0 media about it. I do know things people humm and haw about like spell power didn't exist in Classic THJ, but I still would like to get a gauge from a person who has an actual 1:1 perspective.

And no, don't tell me about leveling in Guk when you started playing during Velious. That is not the same thing.
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Yes, I played alpha, beta, and launch.

I have a clip where I one shot Cazic Thule in era, for the server first kill.

Classic THJ was fun until you got 1kAA and everything just fell over. Spell Damage absolutely existed in THJ from launch, it just wasn't on every item.

EQL has a huge design flaw where you HAVE to level something that has AoE still, because the only efficient way to get AA is leveling one new class at a time. It's also the only way to get necessary motes, now that AoE is dead, you can't do fear in a reasonable time frame.
 
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Xevy said:
I did. Here where your options:
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Like what exactly is your argument here? THJ gave you a dozen options of ways to level, EQ Legends saw that and decided to get rid of all of them but one and make the one they kept slower. This is somehow a good thing?

You missed a few, swarming was a thing, standard single target was a thing, just getting a bunch of AA from clearing raid trash was a thing.
 
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I got a key on their last twitch stream, luckily. I’m really loving it so far. It’s kind of a dream EQ to me. It’s challenging enough that I can’t just brain dead kill stuff like it’s Diablo, but I don’t have to box and deal with shitty autofollow or running through mobs and turn around so my boxes are attacking every. Fucking. Mob. It’s kind of like having my own 3box in one character to me. Which is exactly what I wanted because I love the idea of synergizing a 3box but hate having to control 3 characters to do it.

Currently running war/rog/shm but can’t wait to try everything else.
 
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I haven't played Diablo4 but isn't Diablo much, much more challenging than grinding mobs down as a war/rog/shm?
 
Xevy

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Tuco said:
I didn't play THJ so forgive my ignorance, but why were those your options? It sounds like THJ is just a power fantasy where you can do whatever and still win. Why couldn't you just venture into random zones for your level and kill everything?

That's how I leveled a new group on live a month ago. I literally just started at an expansion appropriate for my level and killed every mob that wasn't being camped in that zone before moving on. It's not the fastest way to do it, but after so many years I don't really care.
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Zone exp modifiers, mob density, item evolution, and the insane amount of AAs you needed to beat highest end content or to cap out your character. Crawling through Velks took twice the time for 1/2 the AA of DN AEs. Pet cucks killed slower than undead slayers, but you were still running mob to mob and waiting for them to explode.

You can farm any zone you want for AA, but due to ZEM, which EQL doesn't have, so much of it was inefficient and felt like a waste of your time.

You could spend a few hours in DN to get 500 AA in a night or crawl Velks or Griegs and get 100 AA in that same time. Characters in Luclin started maxxing useful AA's around 1100-1400 AAs. And you had 14 hour raid timers so you'd almost always rather spend your time raiding.
 
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Tuco said:
I didn't play THJ so forgive my ignorance, but why were those your options? It sounds like THJ is just a power fantasy where you can do whatever and still win. Why couldn't you just venture into random zones for your level and kill everything?

That's how I leveled a new group on live a month ago. I literally just started at an expansion appropriate for my level and killed every mob that wasn't being camped in that zone before moving on. It's not the fastest way to do it, but after so many years I don't really care.
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You totally could just bounce around and do what you want. I got most of my AA's just bouncing around and having fun/maxed them just farming raid mobs I wanted. You were going to get a good bit of AA no matter what you did because you could kill so fast, and after a certain point your just putting points in stuff like innate charisma anyway.

Anyway, stuff like Hate was really good AA in old world, VP in Kunark, ToV in Velious were all really great AA so you were going to keep yourself close to max just farming stuff you would normally.

EDIT: I would go kind of out of my way to get AA's even farming stuff though, like if i wanted to gank trak I'd pull all of seb down to juggs just for the fun/money/aa. I did that anywhere it was fun to, even did chardok royals for fun just pulling everything to them too. Didn't matter if I really needed anything from that raid mob.

I should add, I personally came in fairly early though and was there when all expansion came out, I dont think I was maxed out by the time kunark. I was maxed out and had expansions on farm for Velious to PoP, I quit after clearing time once because it just felt like a drag. Before that I always had best in slot just waiting for expansion releases, even had full sleeper augs before luclin etc.
 
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