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I didn't mind shelling out $30 or $40 or whatever I paid on THJ for bags because it was a free server and I had played like 100 hours before I even did that, so I kind of wrote it off as payment for my enjoyment of the game. Where I thought they got greedy was the server wide buff system where 1 buff (offensive haste + whatever if I remember right) would cost the equivalent of $20 and lasted for a couple of hours. I remember there being 3 that were required, especially if you were like right on the edge of being able to solo Zeb. The buffs were always up at least while I played and so having the serverwide buffs was the norm and if they fell off it felt like a character nerf rather than losing something special. Of course they would have systemwide messages to note the person that created or extended the buff, thereby incentivizing people to shell out cash for their ooc gratitudes. That system felt a little dirty to me. What they're doing here (at least from what I gather here) seems a few levels below that.
 
Mrniceguy

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Inventory management is a huge pet peeve of mine. So I do everything I can to not have to deal with it.
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What if the game was designed in a way that "inventory management" wasn't a problem.

You're literally paying them to make the problem worse and you don't realize it.
 
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Burns

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moonarchia said:
WOW and EQ both sell convenience items in the cash shop. EQ in particular started selling megahuge bags in the shop decades ago. They started with 20 slot bags, and are up to 40+ slot bags. They also have monthly sub addons for additional bag slots in you main inventory.
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True, was thinking about inventory management and the ridiculousness of PoE, while forgetting about WoW level boosts. The level boosts are also not relevant to current xpac content for most of the xpac, and aren't that useful to people that are actively playing the game. Of course, it still means the "lite version" of that shit creeped into even the flagship MMO, long ago.

Outside of logging into EQ twice since 2004, years apart, seeing pages and pages of AA, then logging off 10 min later, I haven't played EQ since Sony sold it. After reading the various threads here, I'm not sure I would even consider whatever DBG is doing as Everquest, it sounds like it's more the Temu version of Everquest. Everquest going abandonware would have probably been a much better outcome for gamers.
 
moonarchia

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With dragon hoard and insta-sell, what would bags even get you?

Also people tend to talk past each other in these conversations. There is the ideological argument that P2W and pay for convenience are bad, then there is the practical argument on whether you should support games that do it.

I think most gamers of our age agree that MTX and P2W shit is predatory and anti-art. It is a sign of gross greed by the developers and leads to maladaptive development practices where it is financially incentivized to make the game 'worse' in order to make the convenience more valuable. There is also the whole psychology of whales, RMT, etc. Interesting discussions.

There is also the reality that EQ is already a RMT/P2W sewer and if you are going to play EQ, you're going to have to engage with xp pots, bags, RMT, etc.

You can think the first but also accept the second.
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Even hoard gets filled up pretty fast when all you have are 8-10 slot bags. I would cheerfully pay to expand that past 125 slots too.
 
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True, was thinking about inventory management and the ridiculousness of PoE, while forgetting about WoW level boosts. The level boosts are also not relevant to current xpac content for most of the xpac, and aren't that useful to people that are actively playing the game. Of course, it still means the lite version of that shit creeped into even the flagship MMO, long ago.

Outside of logging into EQ twice since 2004, years apart, seeing pages and pages of AA, then logging off 10 min later, I haven't played EQ since Sony sold it. After reading the various threads here, I'm not sure I would even consider whatever DBG is doing as Everquest, it sounds like it's more the Temu version of Everquest. Everquest going abandonware would have probably been a much better outcome for gamers.
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EQ has had good eras and shitty ones. They have had way too many random systems bolted onto it, though. The TSS revamp was pretty great. SOF and SOD were seriously excellent. House of Thule was really good. That's as far as I have personally gotten.

In later xpacs they added completion cheevos for exploring every zone and doing all the rare spawn mini bosses and doing all the quests that yielded larger bags for 1 character only. So if you only ever played 1 character on 1 server you and beat all the things you would have a toon with big bags.
 
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I ain't paying for this emulator. If you do, time to take a long hard look at your wrinkled face and meth teeth in the mirror.
 
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Bye Phelicia.
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How red and sore your dick must be jerking off to your own content
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I still think anyone who posts outside of MMORPG General Discussion should have a 1 day cooldown on any posts in here.
 
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I still think anyone who posts outside of MMORPG General Discussion should have a 1 day cooldown on any posts in here.
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I agree. And anyone who wants to post in the MMORPG General Discussion area should be required to have 100+ posts in the politics thread per day and maintain a positive ratio. Even if that means paying for Lightning Lord Rule Lightning Lord Rule 's happy endings.
 
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Oh god don't bring LLR here if he sniffs around at all at how retarded this thread is it's going to become a whole lot less fun.
 
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Aren't you buying the game yourself, as you have stated numerous times?
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After recent events I've been reconsidering it.

I mean I got silenced for a week for giving a clown reaction. If that's the type of moderators they have in discord Imagine how they'll have the game moderated.

You spend 20 dollars a faggot sees your name starts frothing and then bans you for some retarded bullshit? Also how they are treating people who want luclin models is shit.

I'm curious about it I won't lie but their actions plus the monetization has me leaning more towards the I'll stick with playing WoW and FF14.

Besides with all the games coming out I can better allocate my time into Xenoblade remastered, Zelda OOT remake, still gotta finish Stellar Blade.

I am curious about the cash shop. Like I'm not gonna lie I hope it's like super pay 2 win. Like I hope they sell bundles of motes, bags, everything like that just so I can see the fall out.
 
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I agree. And anyone who wants to post in the MMORPG General Discussion area should be required to have 100+ posts in the politics thread per day and maintain a positive ratio. Even if that means paying for Lightning Lord Rule Lightning Lord Rule 's happy endings.
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I don't mind 20k+ posters, but I don't go into the politics thread and post mid takes on femboys or trump or incels or whatever is causing you guys to murder your father in laws. All I ask is we are shown the same courtesy. My positive ratio was forged in the mundane fires of on-topic mmo discussion thank you.
 
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moonarchia said:
WOW and EQ both sell convenience items in the cash shop. EQ in particular started selling megahuge bags in the shop decades ago. They started with 20 slot bags, and are up to 40+ slot bags. They also have monthly sub addons for additional bag slots in you main inventory.
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You know let's use WoW for this.

EQ Legends is base EQ let's compare that to WoW classic you know the version they have running that is static in Vanilla. I'd say that's a fair comparison.

What WoW Vanilla classic convince is sold?

Don't worry... I'll wait for you to make something up.
 
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Some of us like to pretend this is a gaming forum and not a Stormfront Early Retirement Home. We're just delusional like that.
 
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