Everquest - Phinigel server

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krysanth

Knight of the Realm
Jul 30, 2016
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Because that other thread is too convoluted.

Honestly I like boxing, its why I play EQ. I'm pissed at DBG for dropping that 6 months and poofing out---its obvious it is not what the server wanted and they must know that.

I'll try out Phinny server, but plan on staying in Ragefire.
 

Cinge

Molten Core Raider
Jul 30, 2016
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#2
Pretty obvious they are squeezing as much as they can out of this. They realize they can probably open a new TLP every 6-12 months, and get a big surge in krono money and move on instantly. Players being what they are, have to be on the "newest" thing. With each past server holding a very minor population with the majority jumping to every new one.
 

Zaide

TLP Idealist
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Jul 31, 2016
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#3
There is no way a regular six month server transition won't exhaust the player base. It will definitely burn out any half way decent guilds, that's for sure.
 

Vaclav

Vyemm Raider
Aug 5, 2016
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#4
There is no way a regular six month server transition won't exhaust the player base. It will definitely burn out any half way decent guilds, that's for sure.
Yep, I could see Cinge's theory working longterm with a 12 month routine. (In fact it seems like a great idea for them to do $-wise) But I'd agree if they'd keep doing 6 months fatigue would definitely start becoming an issue.

Now that said I wouldn't be shocked to see them try it once or twice before realizing it's causing such, however.
 

Arbitrary

Baron of the Realm
Jul 30, 2016
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#5
I would think the goal would be to have a series of servers that represent a wide variety of eras so at any given time there's a TLP for everyone. There's a fresh TLP opening up, there's another TLP that's in Velious right now, and there's a third TLP in Planes of Power, that kind of thing. After Dragons of Norrath you dump everyone's characters onto a regular live server.

I'm hoping that they announce in January that Feb 1st they are merging Ragefire and Lockjaw and launching Velious and then switching to a hard 90 day unlock. The way they set up Phinny clearly demonstrates that their forum warriors voted for madness and do not represent what a majority of players want.
 

Vaclav

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Aug 5, 2016
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#6
I would think the goal would be to have a series of servers that represent a wide variety of eras so at any given time there's a TLP for everyone. There's a fresh TLP opening up, there's another TLP that's in Velious right now, and there's a third TLP in Planes of Power, that kind of thing. After Dragons of Norrath you dump everyone's characters onto a regular live server.

I'm hoping that they announce in January that Feb 1st they are merging Ragefire and Lockjaw and launching Velious and then switching to a hard 90 day unlock. The way they set up Phinny clearly demonstrates that their forum warriors voted for madness and do not represent what a majority of players want.
I think the general concept of "pick when to start then get dumped onto Live once it's through" is what they'll do if/when Seasonal happens, if I'd make a guess Arb. They seem just fine with running TLPs up with them being open to transferring to regular servers paid just fine - but Seasonal needs a means to "save" your character when it resets or it's doomed from the start.
 

Apostolos

Knight of the Realm
Aug 3, 2016
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#7
OK, so I have an honest question. Joining a progression server really does have some appeal to me but I have no history with any of the guilds here. I played on E'ci (now Tunare) and joined up with the Mal'Deth guys for a while when they started there as I was playing solo at the time and had a lot of fun. They since moved everyone to test and now their web site is offline, so I am looking here to maybe start over.

Where would yall suggestion I start looking as far as guilds go considering I am familiar with EQ but not the know it all and would have to be reminded of stuff along the way? I am even still torn over what class to even play at this point. I wanted to do the necro with a shamy/cleric or even bard on my 2nd pc, but omg so many necros it seems. Hell.. making a tank may even be worthwhile. EQ is just not a game I want to join the LFG guild on if you know what I mean... did that when I tried to start playing again and it sucked. (had a 101 necro 2 boxing a shamy on Gribble missions wearing HoT armor and having a hard time getting groups and playing catch up all at the same time)
 

Vaclav

Vyemm Raider
Aug 5, 2016
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#8
Well first questions I'd ask yourself is if you care to do "batphone" stuff at all to compete with the open world mobs or if instanced content is enough for you. (Or door #3 of no raiding at all)

Then I'd look for a schedule that can fit your plans, then loot system that you prefer and then apply to that guild if they seem like decent folk.

I personally wanted scheduled raids only on a 8-12pm ESTish schedule so I went with IV - I do prefer DKP but was willing to sacrifice that element. (Plus TBH - Krim has proven to have very sensible loot councils in the past)

But wants will vary by person, obviously.
 

Apostolos

Knight of the Realm
Aug 3, 2016
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#9
Well Im a typical 8-5er in CST, so my play time is usually 6-11 CST and weekends. I like DKP too, but honestly the earlier stuff in the first few expansions doesn't really matter all that much as long as any council doesn't do stupid shit and hamstring a raid force by gearing up just a few people. Ya, I would like to raid although I'm not gonna wake up at zero dark thirty when I gotta work.. MAaaaby on weekend but hell.. Im 44..not 20 and in college heh
 

Cinge

Molten Core Raider
Jul 30, 2016
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#10
You know, given that they have only 1 server planned. And considering how many are coming from both RF/LJ because of instancing + 3 month. It's going to be exactly like RF was for that first weekend. Queues forever.
 

Ambiturner

<Donors Crew>
Jul 30, 2016
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#11
Hopefully won't be as bad. I doubt there's going to be too many people for this server that weren't there for day 1 RF. When you factor in that there are still going to be people staying on RF/LJ, a lot less boxes, and the auto-kick afk thing, things should be manageable.
 

Vaclav

Vyemm Raider
Aug 5, 2016
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#12
Well Im a typical 8-5er in CST, so my play time is usually 6-11 CST and weekends. I like DKP too, but honestly the earlier stuff in the first few expansions doesn't really matter all that much as long as any council doesn't do stupid shit and hamstring a raid force by gearing up just a few people. Ya, I would like to raid although I'm not gonna wake up at zero dark thirty when I gotta work.. MAaaaby on weekend but hell.. Im 44..not 20 and in college heh
Sounds like IV (or a few others) could be a good fit for you - browse over on the recruitment on EQLive and I'm sure you can find one that tickles your fancy. I didn't search too long being that old friends (and rivals) are in IV so reminiscing from 12 years ago overrode most other considerations in where to go.
 
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#14
Do you mean further than they already have? Or are you unaware of the 2 pet nerfs they've already done?
 

wanand

Knight of the Realm
Aug 1, 2016
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#15
So as someone who has no chance of bat phoning at this point in my life is it worth playing these progression servers? The idea of instancing has perked my interest a bit but are these servers just full of the 24/7 raid scene guilds? if you are not able to play like that then is there any point in joining in on this?
 

Vaclav

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Aug 5, 2016
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#16
So as someone who has no chance of bat phoning at this point in my life is it worth playing these progression servers? The idea of instancing has perked my interest a bit but are these servers just full of the 24/7 raid scene guilds? if you are not able to play like that then is there any point in joining in on this?
Looks like from the Guild Recruitment forum on EQLive that it's about 2/3 instance only guilds. (Or one's like IV that are "absolutely scheduled raids only - but we'll do open world if the stars align with raid times")

So there absolutely should be some options as a non-batphone person - I went with <In Virtue> as my choice, but there's others as well - depending on your schedule and the people/loot systems you like another may be a better fit.

Non-batphone guilds I see onGuild Recruitmentare:
Broken Wave
In Virtue
CrossGuard
Unnamed Dojii Guild(It's Dojii so may want to check Apokolypsis or whatever the spelling was history - I'm dubious)
REMOVED - Merged with CrossGuard for Phinigel
Magus Imperialis Magicus[Unsure batphone or not at all - I'd tend to think MiM will go non-batphone but it's a coin flip - great people regardless though]
Disciples of the Void[Unsure - but EU]
Deja Vulak
Valoran(No Recruitment Forums thread - responded to a request from some people in the mindset with direct link only - will update with GR one if they make one that I notice)

Now, again, I'd suggest IV - they're a good solid group that have posted great results in the past for what will amount to the first 2 years or so of the server - but different guilds appeal to different folks.
 

Zaide

TLP Idealist
<Donors Crew>
Jul 31, 2016
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#18
Vaclav if you edit that post you can remove the "403 Forbidden" and add the actual guild name. Would make using your list much easier.
 

Vaclav

Vyemm Raider
Aug 5, 2016
12,518
1h 37m
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#19
Vaclav if you edit that post you can remove the "403 Forbidden" and add the actual guild name. Would make using your list much easier.
Done, had checked edit but too quickly, didn't see the 403's actually were listed there in the descriptor spot.
 

wanand

Knight of the Realm
Aug 1, 2016
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#20
Looks like from the Guild Recruitment forum on EQLive that it's about 2/3 instance only guilds. (Or one's like IV that are "absolutely scheduled raids only - but we'll do open world if the stars align with raid times")

So there absolutely should be some options as a non-batphone person - I went with <In Virtue> as my choice, but there's others as well - depending on your schedule and the people/loot systems you like another may be a better fit.

Non-batphone guilds I see onGuild Recruitmentare:
Broken Wave
In Virtue
CrossGuard
Unnamed Dojii Guild(It's Dojii so may want to check Apokolypsis or whatever the spelling was history - I'm dubious)
Con Gaming[Unclear for 100% sure on batphone, but I've taken it to mean no batphone]
Magus Imperialis Magicus[Unsure batphone or not at all - I'd tend to think MiM will go non-batphone but it's a coin flip - great people regardless though]
Disciples of the Void[Unsure - but EU]

Now, again, I'd suggest IV - they're a good solid group that have posted great results in the past for what will amount to the first 2 years or so of the server - but different guilds appeal to different folks.
Thanks for the info, I am a dirty Euro so I will have a look around on the forums